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Airtran Pays Big in Hotels

scarlet

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BWI= 720,000.00 a year in BWI hotel cost
MCO= 950,000.00 a year in MCO hotel cost

Why would you not open a base? Waste of money !

Just put a bid out, people will bid there without the company paying
moving cost.

we would hopefully get some 1,2 and 3 day trips in ATL !
 

Kharma Police

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BWI= 720,000.00 a year in BWI hotel cost
MCO= 950,000.00 a year in MCO hotel cost

Why would you not open a base? Waste of money !

Just put a bid out, people will bid there without the company paying
moving cost.

we would hopefully get some 1,2 and 3 day trips in ATL !

Right on Instructor Dude, I mean Scarlet!!!, if it weren't for that pesky contract and the trouble making union we would have more bases!
 
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scarlet

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Tell me again why the union cares? Unless you love 4 day trips, keep doing them! I believe most people would prefer 2 days or 3 days. so of us like day lines!

Yeah give us that money instead of hotels ! I thought you would rather have a 15-20.00 raise- guess not.
 

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That's annual salary for two new-hire classes of 20 each based on 40K/year.
 

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Hey, Scarlet- hope with all of this time on your hand, you have "manned up" and made a contribution to the Pilot Crisis Fund. Help those pilots who pay the price for the rest of us. www.PilotCrisisFund.com
 

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BWI= 720,000.00 a year in BWI hotel cost
MCO= 950,000.00 a year in MCO hotel cost

Why would you not open a base? Waste of money !

Just put a bid out, people will bid there without the company paying
moving cost.

we would hopefully get some 1,2 and 3 day trips in ATL !

Right on Instructor Dude, I mean Scarlet!!!, if it weren't for that pesky contract and the trouble making union we would have more bases!

Man, all this time I thought scarlet was a pussified, irrational, management sycophant, when really I was being played by an Oscar - caliber troll. I'm so ashamed.
 

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What does your contract say for moving expenses? Is it really cheaper to move pilots down there and pay rent at the airport for offices?
 

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BWI= 720,000.00 a year in BWI hotel cost
MCO= 950,000.00 a year in MCO hotel cost

Why would you not open a base? Waste of money !

Just put a bid out, people will bid there without the company paying
moving cost.

we would hopefully get some 1,2 and 3 day trips in ATL !

Management was asked about this during my recurrent last month. They said that when the poll went out to the pilots, only a very small percentage were interested in bases in MCO or BWI, and that it would only be day trips for the most part. He said "there is really not as many pilots as you think there are who want bases there".

Also said it wouldnt offset hotel costs that much unless marketing could guarantee a certain number of airplanes from each fleet on the overnight. It works great for the flight attendants because they can jump on either plane, but he said one month 60% of the flights into and out of MCO may be 717 and the next month 60% will be 737. Lots of variables..

Take this for whats its worth, that is what was said during re-current.
 

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management was asked about this during my recurrent last month. They said that when the poll went out to the pilots, only a very small percentage were interested in bases in mco or bwi, and that it would only be day trips for the most part. He said "there is really not as many pilots as you think there are who want bases there".

Also said it wouldnt offset hotel costs that much unless marketing could guarantee a certain number of airplanes from each fleet on the overnight. It works great for the flight attendants because they can jump on either plane, but he said one month 60% of the flights into and out of mco may be 717 and the next month 60% will be 737. Lots of variables..

take this for whats its worth, that is what was said during re-current.

and by management!
 

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Every airline has huge hotel bills. Simply put even at nominal rates and two fill crews overnighting a year we are looking at 200K plus a city.
 

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I never understood why with all these post-deregulation "fortress hubs" set up, the airlines never went to a scheduling system based on more one day trips. All we do is fly out n' back from the hub most of the time anyway, why not build most of the trips that way and use overnights to cover only the late arrival/early departure flights at the out-stations?
 

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I never understood why with all these post-deregulation "fortress hubs" set up, the airlines never went to a scheduling system based on more one day trips. All we do is fly out n' back from the hub most of the time anyway, why not build most of the trips that way and use overnights to cover only the late arrival/early departure flights at the out-stations?


You may see a lot more of that with the new regs. They do a ton of 10.5 hr turns with the FA's. NWA made the HNL turn out of LA or SFO a turn for their FA's. We have more restrictive rules that make it darn near impossible to schedule efficiently with all day trips. Plus it sets you up for major headaches with an IROP
 

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You may see a lot more of that with the new regs. They do a ton of 10.5 hr turns with the FA's. NWA made the HNL turn out of LA or SFO a turn for their FA's. We have more restrictive rules that make it darn near impossible to schedule efficiently with all day trips. Plus it sets you up for major headaches with an IROP

For trans-con and similar type flying I agree, just overnight the crews. It was the short to medium haul turns that I was thinking about, anything from one to three turns for 6-7 hrs block. Three turns would be a lot of work, granted, and not ideal.
 
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