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Airtran Open Mco & Bwi Bases

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Bill, there you go with those names again.

Have you PM'd the moderator to get your 737pylt name back from Ban Land? Tanker Clown misses you.

Hi chuck yogurt/lawman/einstein/sky fly/lame lizard/texas jet jock, have you considered taking out a loan to pay for all the user names you've been through?
I still have no idea who 737pylt is, but it is obvious you are obsessed with him. Btw, sorry to hear of your impending furlough from midwest.
 
Only, if you build day trips. Build a 3 or 4 day trip from Orlando or Baltimore and you still have hotel costs.
Then tell me how do we keep hotels cost out of atlanta down to a minimum, if we don't have any day trips????

Seriously, are you that we todd did?
 
Then tell me how do we keep hotels cost out of atlanta down to a minimum, if we don't have any day trips????

Seriously, are you that we todd did?

O.K I'll type slow so you can understand. If you build a 4 day trip from mco you no longer have a hotel cost in mco but you do in three other cities. The hotel cost you save in mco or bwi are spread out in other cities. 3 nights= 3 hotels no matter where you begin your trip, unless you build day trips. Seriously max I don't know where you went to school, but you should call them because they owe you a refund.

Max powers = minimum brain power
 
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O.K I'll type slow so you can understand. If you build a 4 day trip from mco you no longer have a hotel cost in mco but you do in three other cities. The hotel cost you save in mco or bwi are spread out in other cities. 3 nights= 3 hotels no matter where you begin your trip, unless you build day trips. Seriously max I don't know where you went to school, but you should call them because they owe you a refund.

Max powers = minimum brain power

If the trip ends in MCO or BWI then you have not incurred the need for a hotel, regardless if it is a three or four day. Using this logic; you take the number of hotels you use a night and it will be that many less hotels needed.

In other words on Monday you have 20 three day trips ending and 9 four day trips ending, in addition you have 18 three day trips beginning and 7 four day trips beginning. Add all that together and it equals 54 hotel rooms not needed on Monday!

Now realize that a MCO and BWI "virtual" base is a bunch of bull because it releases the company from any contractual requirements in regard to crew domiciles. In the virtual base, as an incentive to get more pilots/FA to sign up, the company will put a lot of the good schedules out of ATL. Not fair to the ATL folks!

So Mr Fletch tell me again how ONLY a day trip will keep from having to need a hotel at a virtual base?????

Yes you are We Todd Did.
 
Could someone else explain this to max, I'm too tired. And he is too dumb.
 
Could someone else explain this to max, I'm too tired. And he is too dumb.

Could someone explain this to Fletch, I'm too tired and he is too WE TODD DID!!!!!!

My man, are you seriously that obtuse? Yes, a day trip would be more effective in mitigating the need for a hotel (in comparison to a 3 or 4 day trip) but 3 and four day trips that begin and end in the domicile/virtual base also mitigate the need for a hotel.

Is it really that hard to understand? I mean Atlanta has no day trips that I know of and they somehow manage to not send us to a hotel.
 
Could someone explain this to Fletch, I'm too tired and he is too WE TODD DID!!!!!!
You both have points, but the main problem is that the rules required for a virtual base would make the company unwilling to do them.

My man, are you seriously that obtuse? Yes, a day trip would be more effective in mitigating the need for a hotel (in comparison to a 3 or 4 day trip) but 3 and four day trips that begin and end in the domicile/virtual base also mitigate the need for a hotel.
Yes, good lines out of MCO and BWI would "steal" some of the good lines away from ATL, where many live. However, the majority of our pilots are commuters, so there would be some popularity for them, too.

Again, you would have to create rules to keep the flying somewhat even, give 90 days notice to open or close a "virtual" base, etc, and, by the time you were done, IF you protected everyone properly, the rules would probably kill the cost savings to the company in hotels.

It's either that, or let the company have "free reign" over what they do with a virtual base and we'd live to regret it. Guaranteed. No WAY the company will do the right thing for crewmembers if it costs ANY money; our senior management has proven that time and time again, and in recent history as well.

Is it really that hard to understand? I mean Atlanta has no day trips that I know of and they somehow manage to not send us to a hotel.
Actually, they put people up in hotels all the time with re-scheduling due to lack of crews. Summer flying is worse because of the increased schedule, but it still happens.

No, a virtual base would have reduced hotel costs but, by limiting the types of lines they build so that they can't "cherry pick" everything and leave ATL natives with crap trips, the company would save on ONLY hotels, and not everywhere else (like line efficiency), so they'd likely not want to sign an LOA with proper protections for everyone.

No one should have to suffer while someone else benefits.
 
Yes thanks Lear, I do know that sometimes we put people up in Atlanta hotels. But my main point is that 3 and 4 days in addition or without day trips do mitigate the need for a hotel if there is some sort of base at the station/domicile in question......

On to another point that is untrue: The majority of pilots at Airtran commute. I have found this not to be true especially with Captains. I think this may have been true long ago but now the rumor has been furthered by folks that commute.
 
On to another point that is untrue: The majority of pilots at Airtran commute. I have found this not to be true especially with Captains. I think this may have been true long ago but now the rumor has been furthered by folks that commute.
Not sure where you're getting your data, but the NPA actually did a survey on this last year at this exact time, part of the NC Wilson Polling data before mediated talks in D.C. I was at...

The number was 68% commuters, 32% local ATL residents, or roughly 1/3.

That may have changed by as much as 3-5% MAX with the new-hires (and that's if even 2/3 of them lived in ATL), or if there was a sudden in-flux of moves to the A-T-L, but I seriously doubt it.
 
BTW, it's we taught it! Not we todd it! Dummies.

ah man you so right......how we taught it idk....I still say we have less commuters now but lear might be right in any event I recommend you save for the shut down and realize I don't subsidize fuel.
 
Cool. I'll shoot you a PM Wed night to double-check. Bring your posse'... ;)

p.s. Agreed about management but, then again, Chick-Fil-A's management is just as ethical as Southwest's, maybe more-so, they're religiously-based, which is why they're closed on Sundays...

God-fearing usually means ethical. Maybe someone could take Kolski to church?


Soooo.....

How'd the blind date go? Did you go dutch or did he buy?
 
Hasn't come up yet. I'm still working until Monday, just got in from Belize.

It's this coming Thurs,,,
 

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