Airtran MEC voted no

[jonjuan]

I didn't mean to have any racism in my post. The word minorities that I used meant the 90% of your pilots that may have been quietly overwhelmed by the vocal 10%(the minorities). I had to really think about how you replied. No racism implied what so ever.

Jeez man-is everyone this serious on here

 

[PCL_128]

It's simple, and not arogant. Every single one of my friends at AAI wanted this deal and actually expected it to pass the MEC so they could evaluate it and vote accordingly.

Your friends are hardly a scientific sample. By contrast, our representatives were keeping spreadsheets with the names of all of their constituents and how those pilots asked that the MEC vote. In the case of the MKE and MCO domiciles, since they are so small, those reps actually took the time to call every single one of their pilots to ask them personally how they wanted them to vote. It was quite easy for them to figure out the will of the majority. From what I hear, the tally that each rep came up with was overwhelmingly in favor of voting it down at the MEC level and not wasting time with a pilot group vote. But hey, I'm sure your "friends" are the pulse of the membership instead.

 

[OldManPilot]

Just a curious question. If pay rates were reduced for the 717, and then vacancies needed filled, how would they fill them? new hires forced to work the 717 instead of the 737? I hope you see my point. I'm old and don't have many years of flying left, but I would hate to see this squabble effect someone just getting into the industry unfairly.

 

[redflyer65]

Yet, more than one rep never answered or responded to phone calls placed. I'm glad you have glossy spreadsheats though. This is going to be real interesting to see how this plays out. Where's that popcorn again?

 

[GuppyWN]

SWA hired a hand full of ATA pilots, while AirTran, (4 times smaller company) hired dozens. Not to mention the fact that AirTran had no obligation to hire any since SWA walked away with the prize.

And where did those ATA pilots start at Airtran?

Let me tell you. At a higher seniority than Airtran offered them in their offer! Airtran offered to buy a controlling interest of ATA assets and offered their pilots - squadoosh!

Gup

 

[redflyer65]

Just a curious question. If pay rates were reduced for the 717, and then vacancies needed filled, how would they fill them? new hires forced to work the 717 instead of the 737? I hope you see my point. I'm old and don't have many years of flying left, but I would hate to see this squabble effect someone just getting into the industry unfairly.

In the end, I see the 717 being fenced at it's present payscale. SWAPA and SW won't be motivated to pay more at this point. That offer is gone. Gary wants low training cost so he will push for the fence, SWAPA will agree leading to lower 717 cost and the only new training would be newhires as you said.

RF

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

In the end, I see the 717 being fenced at it's present payscale. SWAPA and SW won't be motivated to pay more at this point. That offer is gone. Gary wants low training cost so he will push for the fence, SWAPA will agree leading to lower 717 cost and the only new training would be newhires as you said.

RF

I thought the 71's were going to Delta, no wait, it was Finair, no Quantas connect, or Africa?

In the big picture, is it in SWAPA's best interest to pay less on an a/c with the same seating capacity of some a/c you already fly?

 

[redflyer65]

I thought the 71's were going to Delta, no wait, it was Finair, no Quantas connect, or Africa?

In the big picture, is it in SWAPA's best interest to pay less on an a/c with the same seating capacity of some a/c you already fly?

I have no idea if the 717 says or goes, but the payrate will be decided by SWAPA along with other contract items..if it gets that far.

 

[Cometman]

I thought the 71's were going to Delta, no wait, it was Finair, no Quantas connect, or Africa?

In the big picture, is it in SWAPA's best interest to pay less on an a/c with the same seating capacity of some a/c you already fly?

It would if there is a long fence. That way the Trannies will not get the pay. They need to feel the pain for their MEC vote. They deserve nothing more.

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

You do know we have 737s right?