Airtran MEC voted no

[waveflyer]

I've always got that- lots of AT pilots chose it bc of quick seniority and ATL- good motivations- but the reality check comes from taking responsibility for the risk that comes along with getting on with a smaller growing carrier- you could go under- or you could get bought-

That's just being an airline employee man-
No guarantees-

And yeah- try the legacy games- you'll be finding new FO's every leg- and the ones who will fly with you do it to not screw the passengers but will be writing your a$$ up-
That's not our deal here- period-

Didn't I shut down this thread a while ago? Another reality is that pilots will b/tch- and when you do here- please know that most every one else- including exAT will be rolling their eyes at you -
What's done is done- this whole deal got dumb a LONG time ago- for no other reason than nothing is changing

 

[bluesideup1]

How is did they get raped? If you look at all the other work groups that went to arbitration it look like the Airtran pilots came out about the same if not ahead? What did you expect DOH or Relative? It wasn't a merger of equals and that was pointed out over and over through arbitration.

 

[Bwipilot]

From a birds eye view, there's plenty of people on both sides (RSW and FAT) who feel they got the shaft.

I'd note one of the biggest problems is that the company hasn't made any growth plans to improve the lot of the whole group. Hence, no one feels like they've gotten ahead--or will get ahead--for a long time.

 

[SWA/FO]

Not everyone is a money grabbing, materialistic a-Hole like yourself Mr. SWA gearjerker. Speaking of which, and only since you brought it up, since your cult that flys airplanes bought us, our pay has gone down month after month.

By SW having to throw around threats and ultimatums to get what they want is all the proof any thinking person would need to know to come to the conclusion that the SIA was a screw job.

Keep talking your skit tho, I'll be your capt soon 'nuff boy.

Your making less money because youe haven't been FURLOUGHED, like you should have been, Side Letter 8. If its NOT about the money (BS!) why are you worried about making LESS money? Everybody is making less money now, becuase they cut the schedule, they do this every Jan-Feb.

You you choose to stay at an Airline that is srinking becuase your EGO sez you need to be a Captain, then you have no room to bitch. If your QOL sucks, I guess you don't live near or want to live near our 8 bases, ATL coming soon.... (where I will be #1 Captain).

Gary Kelly wasn't going to combine you guys unless you played along. He didn't want your POS DC-9 at all. All he had to do was mention this to SWAPA (thats why our guys are mad).

You will not be my Captain. I already upgraded. However, you will have a chance to bid on stuff, that I don't want.

 

[Kermit_D_Frog]

Can't wait to do my one leg with you, Clyde. It will be fun to grab my stuff, walk out and leave you waiting on a new FO or to get pulled yourself for the long journey to Dallas and the carpet dance. And since you are already calling yourself by one of Cartman's little friends, might I suggest you change your name to Polly Prissy Pants?

 

[Tripower455]

Easy for you to say.

Personally, I have enough resentment to last the rest of my career.

I'll bet that resentment predates 9/27.

Get out of the FI pigsty and ask some other pilots around the industry and see how many would love to be in a position to be a mid level SW Capt in 2015. Not to mention those that would love to be a new hire FO.

Your cheese got moved. Fortunately for you, it got moved in a better direction than most in this industry in the last 4 decades.

 

[Phlintstone]

SWA/FO you are obviously just being a troll. Either that or you have serious mental issues. I'll be saying a prayer for you tonight.

Phred

 

[SWA/FO]

SWA/FO you are obviously just being a troll. Either that or you have serious mental issues. I'll be saying a prayer for you tonight.

Phred

good say a prayer for me.

 

[Phlintstone]

You need all the help you can get!

Phred

 

[dicko]

ATL coming soon.... (where I will be #1 Captain).

Be sure to introduce yourself when you come into our crew room

 

[DougCorp-9]

SWAPA secrets are leaking out. Things are about to get interesting. The 'LUV" just keeps getting better.

 

[Dude]

What secrets?

 

[vixin]

Like what?

 

[jonjuan]

Who's on First?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

I guess our MEC is just becoming aware of some MOU's between SWA and SWAPA that were agreed to while in three party negotiations before SIA #1. It explains why we keep hearing SWA guys say they have an agreement to all the ATN captain seats prior to 1/1/15 when we did not see it. Might mean SWAPA and SWA were not negotiating in good faith. Might be evidence for the DRC. Might mean nothing. Who knows. Just evidence that this was a two on one full court press from the beginning.

 

[Quiet Flight]

You'd be singing a different tune if your new employer threw you over a barrel and screwed you up the brown eye then kissed you on the forehead.

What you do in your free time is your business, pal. Don't think this is the proper venue to share and/or troll for new "friends".

 

[redflyer65]

I guess our MEC is just becoming aware of some MOU's between SWA and SWAPA that were agreed to while in three party negotiations before SIA #1. It explains why we keep hearing SWA guys say they have an agreement to all the ATN captain seats prior to 1/1/15 when we did not see it. Might mean SWAPA and SWA were not negotiating in good faith. Might be evidence for the DRC. Might mean nothing. Who knows. Just evidence that this was a two on one full court press from the beginning.

It means nothing. The company can run the business any way they see fit. There decisions were not a conflict with either our CBA or the SLI agreement.

 

[Britpilot]

It means nothing. The company can run the business any way they see fit. There decisions were not a conflict with either our CBA or the SLI agreement.

Not quite.
We shall see how this plays out.
If nothing else it serves only to increase the distrust between AirTran pilots and SWAPA.

 

[fletch717]

It means nothing. The company can run the business any way they see fit. There decisions were not a conflict with either our CBA or the SLI agreement.

We will see, a secret agreement while we we voting on SLI 2 to delay AT captains from re-upgrading after 2015 will cause is more bad blood.

 

[redflyer65]

So Southwest comes out with a conversion schedule for the AAI 737s in Sept 2011 and that's big deal?

The other was an agreement for an ATL base. It has to be a 737 base because there won't be a 717. And that's a big deal too?

Yawn.