Airtran Fleet Update

[Prof. Joe Vee]

This is too funny. If you don;t like my posts, it pretty simple. Don't read them.

Here, I'll even sing it for you:

"Here's a quarter, call someone who cares . . . . .".

"Ty",

I saw your posr prior to the edit.

You have real problems and I am concerned that you are allowed into the cockpit of an aircraft. You are very Bi-Polar.

Professor Joe Vee
Aerologist

 

[NYRANGERS]

NYR,

I did a search on you, and from what I read, you have a problem not only with Ty, but with pilots at SWA , JBlue, SWA, Frontier etc...

Clearly you feel threatned by the LCC's and blame them for your furlough. Also, from reading your posts you don't have any idea as to the pay and rigs offered by most LCC's. But due to your limited experience that doesn't suprise me.

Maybe if you applied at a few of them before taking a corporate job you wouldn't have to come to this web site having to ask "how do I fly into st thomas?"


I hope you enjoy your corporate job, you might be there a long time.

I asked about St. Thomas because I have never planned an international flight (St. Thomas is not really international but customs and such are involved) without the help of dispatchers and airline support. So I asked for help, I don't see the problem or shame in that. http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?threadid=29960

I have many friends at various airlines (all types included). I have no problem with the LCC's, I just voice my opinion here like many do about the various issues regarding our industry. The latest was about non-rev and ATA. Just my opinion, no big deal.

I do like my corporate job, I mostly fly with a friend of mine who is also a furloughed Delta pilot. Thanks for the concern, and I hope you like your job as well.

Regards,

NYR

 

[NYRANGERS]

This is too funny. If you don;t like my posts, it pretty simple. Don't read them.

Here, I'll even sing it for you:

"Here's a quarter, call someone who cares . . . . .".

Ty,

You are obviously a very insecure person and probably a more insecure pilot. It must be terrifying for you every time to fly. So to counter that fear you put up a front here and most likely at work (you must be a real joy to fly with).

Try to remember that the job doesn't define the man. AirTran seems like a great place to work ( I have many friends that work there). You don't have to justify your job and salary to everyone you meet all the time.

Good luck dousche knuckle,

NYR

PS. I enjoy reading your posts. I missed the post you erased, but I am sure it was a doozy.

 

[Ty Webb]

I'm wondering how screwed up a person would have to be to go on a message board, and pretend to be a shrink . . . . On a scale of 1 to ten, it ranks about a twelve and a half.

BTW, a real shrink would know the word is "bipolar" with no hyphen.

"Ty",

I saw your posr prior to the edit.

You have real problems and I am concerned that you are allowed into the cockpit of an aircraft. You are very Bi-Polar.

Professor Joe Vee
Aerologist

 

[Ty Webb]

Wow- my whole life, people have said I have a superiority complex, and now, here you have come to my rescue, by claiming I have an inferiority complex. Well, the two claims must balance each other out . . . . which means I am a well-balanced person.

Free at last! Free at last, oh, golly, I'm free at last.

Oh, thank you, NYRangers! You really like me, you really, really, like me. Sniff! We can all get along . . . . Tito, hand me a tissue . . . . .

 

[Falconjet]

The world wide (mouth) Webb

You guys know you are only encouraging him, don't you?

FJ

 

[Stifler's Mom]

You guys should leave Ty alone, or he'll have your company removed from their jumpseat.

 

[fuzzy077]

NYR,

I did a search on you, and from what I read, you have a problem not only with Ty, but with pilots at SWA , JBlue, SWA, Frontier etc...

Thats how Rangers fans all are... I think he's just bitter because his hockey team sucks.

 

[NYRANGERS]

Thats how Rangers fans all are... I think he's just bitter because his hockey team sucks.

I'd love to argue with you......................but you're right........man they suck...... again!!!! It's really sad, it's like Delta managment is running the Rangers.......oh well I love em anyway.

Regards,

NYR

 

[fuzzy077]

It's really sad, it's like Delta managment is running the Rangers

Nice!

 

[Ty Webb]

Re: What's an Aerologist?????

An Aerologist is one who fills the inflatable doll with hot air in the relative comfort of their parents' basement and then, when overcome with guilt pretends to analyze another human being, thereby remaining safe from introspection and avoiding separation anxiety.

 

[mnboyev]

What a bunch of garbage. Whats the point of getting 'into it' with some dude on the internet. Not very entertaining at all. And making personal slams is just plain unprofessional. \

Come on guys... Some of you folks sound like pissy Flight Attendants. Lets raise the bar not lower it.....

I'm all for the little green evergreen after working the early Ft Meyers stuff.

 

[FLB717]

I prefer the ones from Yankee Candle Shop (Clean Cotton or Rain Forrest) vs. the Pine scents from 7-11.

Come on guys get a life here, geez

 

[C77MD80]

Start a new thread?

Hey, can you guys start a new thread if anything interesting comes up about the Airtran Fleet Update? This thread was hi-jacked a while back and the child-like dribble is starting to come out of my screen........

 

[P38JLightning]

oh yeah...

FBC,

Good answer on the taxes thing. That makes sense. Atlanta needs all the tax rev it can get, that's for sure. And I'm sure a good relationship with the local FSDO also is good for business.

I can't remember the call sign of this poster, but:
>>P38JLightning,

Boy, you are sure WAY off in your assumtption about unlimited 50s, 70s, 90s and unlimited use of Ryan at AirTran.

There is very specific language in the contract tied to outside flying, and is limited to 70 seats. It is restricted to a certain % of ASMs according to the number of aircraft AirTran operates.

The reason Ryan operates at all is due to a side Letter of Agreement to this scope portion of the contract, and it too, has VERY specific limits.

Maybe you had best find another source of information, like getting a copy of the contract and actually reading it, instead of just posting something that you either "heard" or just made up.
<<


Gees Dude, settle down.

I didn't assume any such thing, I only ASKED what kind of scope AT has and mentioned how IF you had unlimited outsourcing that would be a bad thing. The 70 seat limit sounds good, but its something you may want to lower in your next contract, namely because of the new 70 seat EMB products. Industry pay rates on those things are in the toilet.

When AT gets to around 100 planes (not sure exactly how many the 737-700 will seat) assuming an average of 130 per plane, 4 flights a day for every plane leaves room for around 40 seventy seat EMB's, flown for industry cut throat rates by the low ballers (you know who you are).

When AT gets around 200 planes, the seat average could be closer to 140, 150 or bigger, especialy if -800's are optioned, and management could have the option for as many as 100 super nice, long range, not an RJ by any stretch of the immagination, MAINLINE 70 seat A/C to be OUTSOURCED aoutide the AT seniority list.

Do you think management really needs that kind of "flexibility"?

Personaly I hope AT lowers the seat limit of what they can outsource considerably. Temporarily outsourcing to Ryan was a smart move, IMHO, and I'm glad it has strict limits (remember, I NEVER said there wasn't limits, I only ASKED about wether or not there was limits).

But 100 Mesa (or other's) 70 seater EMB's being flown by AT without AT pilots is NOT something AT needs to be profitable, again IMHO. Perhaps you disagree. But in either case, chill a little bit. No one is taking shots at AT or spreading misinformation, as you suggested (without even reading my post) least of all me.

 

[Prof. Joe Vee]

I thought I smelled something.

Professor Joe Vee
Aerologist

 

[flx757]

P38JLightning,

Sorry, I misunderstood your post. It appeared to me that you made the assumption AirTran had no scope language to allow "unlimited" 50, 70, 90, etc...seat aircrat. So, If I misunderstood...I apologize.

Maybe you have read the news recently that AirTran has terminated their agreement with Air Wisconsin and now will have NO RJs operated by an outside contractor. Also, Ryan is a very short timer, as well. As soon as the 737s start arriving this summer, that will probably be the end of that.

Joe Leonard has publically stated in the press release announcing the end of the Air Wisconsin service the desire to keep all flying in house. He believes it is more ecomnomical.

I don't think there is a huge issue about entering into contract negotiations with "unlimited" RJs flying around, given the recent goings on.

Then again...I'm just a pilot (actually I WAS just a pilot), so what do I know?

 

[Ty Webb]

Originally posted by Prof. Joe Vee
I thought I smelled something

Professor Joe Vee
Aerologist

Professor Joe Vee, you should probably check your pants. I think you've had an accident.

 

[CatfishVT9]

What is it with that guy? All he does on this board is bash AirTran. A pitiful existence.

I used to have a neighbor that always introduced himself as "Doctor". We always just called him "tool".