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RIDETHELIGHTING said:
why does somebody always have to be in a$$.

Welcome aboard its been good ride so far.
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you don't agree with me, so I'm an ass?

Let's see, constant reassignments, truck stop hotels, total disregard for the pilot contract, having to fight for every dime you're owed and two gutter scabs in the chief pilots office.

Welcome aboard!
 
Clyde Frog said:
you don't agree with me, so I'm an ass?

Let's see, constant reassignments, truck stop hotels, total disregard for the pilot contract, having to fight for every dime you're owed and two gutter scabs in the chief pilots office.

Welcome aboard!
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I didn't know SkyWay had any scabs in the CPO.
 
Clyde Frog said:
you don't agree with me, so I'm an ass?

Let's see, constant reassignments, truck stop hotels, total disregard for the pilot contract, having to fight for every dime you're owed and two gutter scabs in the chief pilots office.

Welcome aboard!
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You are welcome to leave anytime.
 
Clyde is 100% correct. It's the coolaid drinkers that came here from the right seat of a Jetstream, 1900, etc. along with the scabs that will leave us with little hope for a respectable contract. Other than the weak a$$ "Yes" voters to the last TA, most all of the other guys are really good to fly with. The others need to grow some balls, but they won't. Please don't sign up for this job if you plan on being another punching bag for management.
 
airline#5 said:
Clyde is 100% correct. It's the coolaid drinkers that came here from the right seat of a Jetstream, 1900, etc. along with the scabs that will leave us with little hope for a respectable contract. Other than the weak a$$ "Yes" voters to the last TA, most all of the other guys are really good to fly with. The others need to grow some balls, but they won't. Please don't sign up for this job if you plan on being another punching bag for management.
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You are also welcome to leave at anytime.
 
Clyde Frog said:
How in the world could I possibly argue with such an intellectually well thought out retort?

With the mentality of the pilot group, this job will always be mediocre, at best.
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Sorry about Skyway, Chuck. I feel bad for you guys.
 
Kharma Police said:
Sorry about Skyway, Chuck. I feel bad for you guys.
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Kharma, Who are you talking to? Me? And what's the interest you seem to have with Skyway? You're the only one talking about them on this thread. Please explain to me how some United express RJ operator is at all related to this topic?

FlyFast, I know I'm free to leave, what a retarded comment that was. Did you take the short bus to school? Many of our pilots have, and will continue to move on to better carriers, what does that tell you? Assuming you work for the same company I do, you know what I said in my earlier post is correct. If not, I recommend you remove your rose colored glasses, put down the cool-aid, and look around.

Outsiders, We have been under mediated negotiations for almost 3 years now and have no internal negotiating leverage whatsoever. We have pilots waiving the contract when it suites their own selfish needs. Most of our pilots are "just happy to have a job", clueless. I guess most are happy being average. If your willing to settle for mediocrity, I recommend you submit an application.
 
Clyde Frog said:
Kharma, Who are you talking to? Me? And what's the interest you seem to have with Skyway? You're the only one talking about them on this thread. Please explain to me how some United express RJ operator is at all related to this topic?

FlyFast, I know I'm free to leave, what a retarded comment that was. Did you take the short bus to school? Many of our pilots have, and will continue to move on to better carriers, what does that tell you? Assuming you work for the same company I do, you know what I said in my earlier post is correct. If not, I recommend you remove your rose colored glasses, put down the cool-aid, and look around.

Outsiders, We have been under mediated negotiations for almost 3 years now and have no internal negotiating leverage whatsoever. We have pilots waiving the contract when it suites their own selfish needs. Most of our pilots are "just happy to have a job", clueless. I guess most are happy being average. If your willing to settle for mediocrity, I recommend you submit an application.
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My mistake, I guess I'll take your word that you're not Chuck/Enstein/Lawman/Snake.
 
I interviewed the day after you and am also in the Feb 25th class. I believe I was the youngest at age 35! I thought I would have been the old one!
 
IFLYASA said:
I interviewed the day after you and am also in the Feb 25th class. I believe I was the youngest at age 35! I thought I would have been the old one!
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Mgmt. knows that the younger, ex-regional guys and gals are the ones who are the most pissed off at the company. Why hire them when they'll disrupt the apathy or just move on to greener pastures after a year or less.

Would you, as a manager, want to hire a 27 y/o who will possibly have 30+ years at Capt. pay or a 50 y/o with maybe 5-10? Look at our flight attendants. The more senior ones are always complaining about write-ups and points. Get rid of the senior $$ and make way for the budget labor seems to be the focus here. My $.02...
 
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IFLYASA said:
I interviewed the day after you and am also in the Feb 25th class. I believe I was the youngest at age 35! I thought I would have been the old one!
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Awesome dude. I think I was about the middle of my interview group. I don't know how many were offered the job. Look forward to seeing you in class. By the way, what are you going to do for lodging during training? Crash pad, hotel, efficiency, etc.

See ya in Feb dude.
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Fortunately for me, I live about 40 minutes away. That's one biggie I chose AirTran. I don't want to commute. Of the 7 who interviewed in my group, I was the only local. It appears most will be doing the crashpad deal.. It's cheaper than a hotel for 2 months. So what's your age? I have a feeling I'll be at the bottom of the list.
 
RIDETHELIGHTING said:
That's it, that's all you could come back with?
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What are you, like 8 years old?

I should have known better than to match wits with you in the first place. After all, you're the one who called me an "a$$", how could I possibly counter that? Guess you win.
 
IFLYASA said:
Fortunately for me, I live about 40 minutes away. That's one biggie I chose AirTran. I don't want to commute. Of the 7 who interviewed in my group, I was the only local. It appears most will be doing the crashpad deal.. It's cheaper than a hotel for 2 months. So what's your age? I have a feeling I'll be at the bottom of the list.
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Even though the title of this thread is 737 or 717, I would definitely agree that not commuting is a HUGE plus no matter what airplane you get. Although, I would like to see more three day trips on the 737 lines (that's another story).
 
Clyde Frog said:
What are you, like 8 years old?

I should have known better than to match wits with you in the first place. After all, you're the one who called me an "a$$", how could I possibly counter that? Guess you win.
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he was calling you a democrat.
 
IFLYASA said:
Fortunately for me, I live about 40 minutes away. That's one biggie I chose AirTran. I don't want to commute. Of the 7 who interviewed in my group, I was the only local. It appears most will be doing the crashpad deal.. It's cheaper than a hotel for 2 months. So what's your age? I have a feeling I'll be at the bottom of the list.
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I am 35. I have no idea about the breakdown of the class. I think I am going to go for the 717 anyway. There are 87 71'a and about 50 73's. I am assuming that there will be more bid choices. I am not sure though. That is why I started this thread. Some how is got way off topic as most threads do. good luck anyway dude, see you in Feb. By the way, do you know of any good pads?
thanks
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27 driver said:
I think I am going to go for the 717 anyway. There are 87 71'a and about 50 73's. I am assuming that there will be more bid choices. I am not sure though. That is why I started this thread.
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Classically, reserve on the 737 has been shorter. Also, deliveries of 717's are over while the 737's are still showing up on the property. Go with the growing fleet. Because of the seat lock for transitions, virtually no one is bidding off the 717 for 737 FO. Ergo, movement on the 717 is only as a result of upgrades - and lots of 717 FO's are sitting tight waiting for 737 CA positions. I wasn't a big fan of long haul (I'm cracking myself up right now, since the FL 737 flying never goes beyond five hours and now I'm doing 12 hour legs), but the flying on the 737 was much less tedious.

Have fun and say hi to the guys for me.
 
njcapt said:
Classically, reserve on the 737 has been shorter. Also, deliveries of 717's are over while the 737's are still showing up on the property. Go with the growing fleet. Because of the seat lock for transitions, virtually no one is bidding off the 717 for 737 FO. Ergo, movement on the 717 is only as a result of upgrades - and lots of 717 FO's are sitting tight waiting for 737 CA positions. I wasn't a big fan of long haul (I'm cracking myself up right now, since the FL 737 flying never goes beyond five hours and now I'm doing 12 hour legs), but the flying on the 737 was much less tedious.

Have fun and say hi to the guys for me.
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I have heard that many 71 fo's are bidding Capt on 73 because it is becoming available. If that is the case I would be moving backwards in seniorty in a sense if given the 73. I guess there is no crystal ball. I was just hoping to get the straight dope from insiders at Airtran. Nothing like current info.
 
27 driver said:
I have heard that many 71 fo's are bidding Capt on 73 because it is becoming available. If that is the case I would be moving backwards in seniorty in a sense if given the 73. I guess there is no crystal ball. I was just hoping to get the straight dope from insiders at Airtran. Nothing like current info.
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Right now the only people getting 737 captain are senior 717 captains bidding over to the 737. So right now the movement is on the 717 fo side.
 

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