airlineapps and sic "type rating"

[DrewBlows]

Check the box, but don't lie about it. If an HR person calls you for an interview they are not going to "laugh you right back to the van to the airport". The HR person who schedules your interview should be able to tell what kind of flying you are doing based on your experience and position at your current company. If they can't figure that out it's their problem, not yours. You can only answer the questions as they are asked.

 

[Captain Morgan]

I agree with DrewBlows. Why read into the question? It's simple. I would just answer the question at face value. "Do you possess any type ratings?" Yes! Even though it's an SIC, if they wanted to differentiate the two on an application they should've asked, "Do you possess any PIC type ratings?" Whatever, I'm prepared to check the box and if asked about it, I'll just tell them it's a SIC type. No further elaboration necessary.

 

[30West]

It's a Type Rating.

It carries a Limitation on it just like a VMC Circle or in the case of a B1900, SIC Privileges Only.

Most are looking at it from a "will it get me a job" point of view. And they are correct. Most job listings requiring a type rating are looking for typed pilots with PIC experience in that particular type. If you have the SIC only limitation that company would have to train you and give you another checkride to have the SIC restriction removed just as if you had gone through an entire initial course. This would negate any savings to the company by being able to "short course" you into the operation. So no, it won't get you the "looking for typed pilots" job.

From strictly an FAA point of view, however, it is very much a Type Rating. It appears on your certificate as such, and requires a reissuance of your pilot certificate by either the FSDO or an Aircrew Program Designee, as is my case.
You cannot log PIC whilst sole manipulator, due to the SIC Only limitation.

That's where the confusion lies.

 

[DrewBlows]

Think of it this way. If two guys with the exact same qualifications fill out the application the exact same way except one checks the "type" box and the other doesn't, the guy who checked the box may have a chance to explain himself at the interview. The other guy will get to explain himself on flightinfo.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Ok put it this way guys. I have 5 type ratings listed on my cert. 3 carry the SIC only limitation. 2 Do not. There are 2 other turbine powered "typeable" planes that I have been 135 SIC qualified on in the past( LR-Jet, BA-3100). But by looking at my certificate you'd never know because I left that company about a year before the SIC type rule became final. I was not current to be able to get those types, does that mean I was not qualified as FO, No. Could I repo one part 91 to Europe today, No. Could I fly one as PIC anywhere, No. Could I take one from Nashville to Miami, Yes. Could I repo a Saab or Avro (ones I have the SIC type) to Europe today, Yes. Could I as PIC, No. Do I have additional privelages today, well sort of, but only when speaking about flying outside of the USA. Until there is further clarification of the regulations I'd say yes it is a type rating. Is it worth anything? Probably not unless you are staying current on the type and flying it outside the USA. Clear as mud?

 

[fischman]

I'll give you my interpretation as someone who does interviews:

Go ahead and list it, but be sure to explain it is an SIC type only. The biggest thing we are looking for is HONESTY. That is something which is easy to find the truth on BTW.

It isn't going to hurt putting it on an application, probably won't help much either. Good luck.