Airline to Corporate

[AA717driver]

BAAAAAAAARRRRRRT!

Be nice, now!TC

 

[Stearmandriver]

Because airline guys have no sense of humor...

and they have everything done for them.

See, now, I thought that was funny...

 

[tittyjet]

Bobk:

Check PMs.

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

In corporate you do have to know your stuff, many companys has let pilots go after they have failed their training. Most of the airlines just keeps giving you more training and they force you to learn it...

Also attitude is different in corporate field we are not only pilots, we are in customer service. WE dont sit behind the locked door and maybe after taxiin to gate one of the pilots comes to the door collect the tips... Did I said tips....

Yeah, that is what corporate world is about caring is charing... ones we got 1800dollars tip between 3 of us, nice !

I guess your milage varies in the training department. Two types at airlines and 1 type corp. with single pilot waiver, plus 3 initial PIC checks (mix of pt 91 and 135 Turbo props under 12,500) Been to F/S, Simcom, and Simuflite.

At least what I have seen the training for corporate is almost like taking a vacation. No pressure whatsoever. It could be because I did the airline stuff first so the corp stuff seemed very laid back. I remember the first type at the regionals as being the hardest, but I also only had around 2700 hours at the time so maybe it just seemed harder since the process was new to me other than the SIC checks. The easiest 121 training was at the majors, but by then you have done it every six months for years, so maybe it just seemed easier.

Everytime I go to recurrent at F/S or wherever I always seem to see some guy all worked up and about to have a coronary over his upcoming ride. I had a sim partner like that for my last type rating, he was doing SIC initial. Nice guy and a good pilot, but I thought he was going to pop a vein by the second day in the sim! All the pressure that he felt was 100% self induced. Once he calmed down he finally started to have fun in the sim instead of fighting it.

 

[English]

I'm with Kerosenesnorter on this...corporate/charter (business jet training) has always been a walk in the park to me. But, I've only been to FlightSafety three times, so maybe it's really more difficult than I'm making it out to be.

Maybe it was just because the Citation was so much easier to fly than any the transport category aircraft I flew at any airlines, that the training was so much easier.

 

[airbaker]

Gotta agree with Kerosene and English on this one.

I've received types from both FlightSafety and Simuflite and from the 121 side. Without a doubt, business jet training is easier; maybe it has to do with the fact that at FS and Simuflite you're not just a student but a "client".

 

[English]

maybe it has to do with the fact that at FS and Simuflite you're not just a student but a "client".

True, oh so true!

 

[sleepy]

The flying part of training at 121 and corprate was about the same to me (pretty easy). The thing that makes Part 121 more difficult was the extra work caused by having to include the FA's and dispatchers in every emergency situation. The added burdon of complying with the Part 121 regs also made decision-making a little more difficult.

 

[MyRadarIsOut]

Why is it so hard to move from the airline industry to the corporate side of flying????? And don"t give me that "We have everything done for us crap"

Attitude Dude

 

[Cpt Splash]

They key to corporate flying is thinking outside the box and being a valued team player in the corporate world. Pilots for a 121 could care less about how the people in the back feel about them. To a corporate pilot it is crucial to be liked by the guy in the back. I disagree with training being a breeze for corporate guys compared with airline training. I've seen plenty of guys at training with 121 experience having trouble with the training program.

on a side note: Don't you 121ers get sick and tired of the same routes day in and day out. Personally I like the challenge of going into airports that don't have 10,000ft runways to eat up. Give me Eagle or Aspen any day of the week over JFK, DFW, or LAX. Plus the skiing is better.

 

[English]

Pilots for a 121 could care less about how the people in the back feel about them.

Gee, I work at a 121 carrier, and I really care about my passengers. Although I typically fly about 1000 times the number of passengers per day as I did flying corporate, I still try to make small conversation with my passengers. Of course, with the sheer number of people in the back I can't give each one the individual attention they each deserve. However, I do strive to welcome them each on board, find smooth air, give them a smooth flight and say goodbye and thanks when they deplane.

Don't you 121ers get sick and tired of the same routes day in and day out. Personally I like the challenge of going into airports that don't have 10,000ft runways to eat up. Give me Eagle or Aspen any day of the week over JFK, DFW, or LAX. Plus the skiing is better.

Nope. Having 17 days off a month allows me to get the variety I desire. I can go skiing where and when I want to ski, not on someone else's schedule.

It's just not a good idea to stereotype any of us. What's with this 121 versus 91 thing, anyway? Both have their strong and weak points. Don't knock it til you've tried it.

 

[Cpt Splash]

English,

I am not stereotyping anymore than anyone else on this board does. I am tired though about hearing how airline pilots are the best and 135, or corporate pilots are nothing more than rented wh0res. There is definitly an attitude associated with alot (not all) 121 guys. I mean I read a thread the other day about the hat now being optional at Xjet and you should have seen the responses on how the hat signifies the professionalism of the industry and seperates us "121" pilots from the rest of those "other" pilots. ITS A HAT. I was walking in Manhattan recently and I saw a guy wearing that hat. HE WAS A DOORMAN.

Some guys just take their job way too seriously.

The info I get are from my friends who work for the airlines. These are the things they complain about. And why would I ever go and work for a airline to make 1/3 my current pay with the possiblity of getting furloughed in a couple of months. We all see it, the airlines are in a constant state of restructuring and I think it is going to be sometime before the pilots are paid the wage they deserve.

Flying corporate or 135 is just as honorable as driving the big iron.

That is my point.

 

[Jack Schitt]

I thought English was a girl. This is an unfair pissing contest!

 

[sleepy]

Now you have done it!

Flare to land, squat to pee.

 

[HMR]

I was walking in Manhattan recently and I saw a guy wearing that hat. HE WAS A DOORMAN.

That's the funniest thing I've read all day. I paid my way through school and flight training working as a doorman at a fancy hotel. I always figured the 121 pilots were trying to look like doorman since we made more money.