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belchfire said:
Oh...well, I know that this guy isfull
of sheeite for sure. If he was a real
airline Captian he would have shown
up with the stripes, tie and ID hastily torn
off, a drink in one hand and lipstick on
his (unbuttoned) collar!

What a looser!

...and told us all about the DC3 that guided him in, right? :rolleyes:

sounds like the guy is full of bologna too...

-mini

PS
Ever notice how fun that Oscar Mayer song is? "cuz oscar mayer has a way with b-o-l-o-g-n-a!"
 
If anyone knows other companies where 15 years still puts you in the right seat, please post them. I guess there around, but I haven't heard of too many.

Doesn't that put you on the street a US Air now? Or did I hear wrong that they are back as far as 1987?
 
One major oversight. You can't be a Capt. in turbojet equipment without an ATP. If he has commercial pilot. He's full of it.
 
Busted!!!

Also check the FAA's database on him, he should have some type ratings which would back up his claim.
 
That is correct beernuts. 15 years puts you on the street at Airways.



beernuts said:
If anyone knows other companies where 15 years still puts you in the right seat, please post them. I guess there around, but I haven't heard of too many.

Doesn't that put you on the street a US Air now? Or did I hear wrong that they are back as far as 1987?
 
I checked the FAA registry and he has no, nada, zilch, type ratings.

Sounds like he's trying to pull the "Catch Me If You Can" scheme.

Ultraman
 
Ask him is it Terminal 2 or 3 ( its really 1 lol ) that AA use in Toyko, that should get him. As there is no T3, and T2 is used by Japan airlines, swiss, or China eastern airlines etc.... or ask him what the name of the airport he flies into... its Tokyo Narita International Airport
 
Thanks for the replies, guys.

C-150ETOPS, it's not my sister, but my niece.

I actually met the guy yesterday at a family Christmas gathering. I quizzed him as much as I could about the airlines and the 777 and he answered all the questions reasonably well, but I couldn't get his timeline to make sense.

He showed up at the party wearing his uniform, hat, trenchcoat and four stripes to boot! He said he was just returning from Tokyo.

I looked him up on the Landings database and he has a Commercial certificate with instructor's rating.

Oh well!
Ultraman


I checked every arrival from Narita Tokyo since Thursday. Every Captain had a seniority in the low triple digits, +30 years or so. The highest seniority FO's were a couple of guys on the west coast. Even they were hired before 1990. Aint no 1993 guy anywhere.

"whole milk" was right. All AA international FO's have to be type rated and ATP rated and also must hold a FAA Class I physicals so you got him there. Additionally, all AA FO's are prohibited from wearing the Captains stripes and hats as FO's even if they had been Captains before the cutbacks. (That's my case, but ok by me. I couldn't take someone calling me Captain after getting knocked back ;) )

1983 seniority: around 20 junior 777 CA's
1990 " " most junior 777 FO

Watch your checkbook and keep a eye on your niece. Email me a last name and first initial and I'll give you a YES/NO on his status. If "NO", call the TSA.
Personally, even as an AA pilot, impersonating one is weird for anyone with any knowledge of current events. With our "industry lowering" compensation standards, the costume shop must have been out of the Michael Jackson and Pee Wee Hermann costumes and only had the AA Captian uniform left. :D

Good luck
 
I'll reinfoce the fact that this guy's story is total B.S. For NATIVE AA'ers, staying at AA, the juniormost guy to ever make captain before the displacements and general slowdown was a 1991 hire. Flat-out impossible for a 1993 hire to have upgraded at AA to Capt. Sounds like a poser, possibly dangerous.

Ask for his seniority number or employee number. With that we can instantly expose him If you see an ID, his EN will be there.
 
C-150ETOPS,

Check your personal messages.

Thanks,

Ultraman
 
...besides AA doesn't fly an MD-80/82/83/88, they fly a SUPER (duper?) 80.
 
Ultraman,

I checked our membership site and can confirm that he is not a AA pilot.

The site also lists any combination or partial names as well as any guy on leave or furloughed. He isn't there at all.

I don't have access to the American Eagle list. This is close to a security issue so maybe an Eagle guy here can check his list like I did.

Just a couple of observations. A 40 year old guy with only a commercial ticket is a red flag even if he was at Eagle. Most guys at that age would get the ATP 99% of the time. Another red flag is a 40 year old guy impersonating or "embellishing" about where he works. It's one thing for a 22 year old doing it at a bar to meet chicks, (good tactic ;) ), it's far weirder to do it at 40 at a family gathering.

The county where I live has a couple of great websites. One is the Sheriffs office that lists any arrest going back years. Another is the Clerk of Courts. They have every deed,license or conviction searchable by name online.


Don't leave any checkbooks or credit cards out.
 
Ultraman said:
I looked him up on the Landings database and he has a Commercial certificate with instructor's rating.
Well that pretty much tells you all you need to know. He's not a Captain anywhere, at any airline.

Confirming that he's not on the pilot list at American, and that his employment timeline is completely bogus is just icing on the cake.

Invite hime to a "family new years party" and you and your brothers and uncles beat the snot out of him.
 
1984 hires...

C-150ETOPS said:
No it's not. I'm an AA guy.


Out of 40 something B777's at AA there are only about 20 total original "B-Scale" guys hired around 1983 flying Captain on it, and all are bottom reserve at JFK or MIA. These are the "golden boys" at AA, all hired early in the first wave of pilots and all could have made CA in less than 6 years.
If you were young and hired at AA in 1984 - 1985, you were king. You could have been upgraded in 5-6 years and been a wide-body Captain out of NYC. You never saw furlough and are still doing okay.
 
Not the first, and certainly not the last, fraud to be found out on flightinfo.com.
 
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Ultraman,
For no reason, other than the fact fact that I'm nosey, please let us know how this thing plays out. Thanks
 
As a professional airline jock I know I can't wait to get rid of that monkey suit and get into something comfortable like a nice pair of jeans. Go to a party with the monkey suit, hat, and yiiiikkkks trench coat. Oh I am sorry I guess it was this last Halloween, please tell me it was.............
 
"As a professional airline jock I know I can't wait to get rid of that monkey suit and get into something comfortable like a nice pair of jeans. Go to a party with the monkey suit, hat, and yiiiikkkks trench coat."

I agree. After 14+ hours polyester offers bystanders little protection from the effects of a persons "skidmarks". :D


I actually want to get a hold of this guy. Maybe he could impersonate me. I could offer him the glory of walking around as an airline pilot and I could sit home and collect my direct deposit "management fee". ;)

Merry Christmas
 
I'll let everyone know how this thing turns out. I've got a few more leads that I want to follow up on. (I knew there was a reason I studied criminal justice in college!

Any American Eagle pilots willing to check the list to see if this guy is on there?

Thanks for all the input.

Merry Christmas,

Ultraman
 
Ultraman said:
I'll let everyone know how this thing turns out. I've got a few more leads that I want to follow up on. (I knew there was a reason I studied criminal justice in college!

Any American Eagle pilots willing to check the list to see if this guy is on there?

Thanks for all the input.

Merry Christmas,

Ultraman
Ultraman,

I can check our seniority list for a name if you need to see if he is an Eagle pilot. I sure hope he is not, but anything is possible with that many pilots. It might be time for your niece to go missed approach on this cheeseball.

Private Message me his name if needed.

Good luck,

Cleared Direct
 

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