AirInc LAX Seminar in April. You going?

[Otto_Pilot]

I was just looking at the list of airlines who will be attending Kit Darby's latest love-fest in LAX in April.

His website shows:

Alaska
Comair
ACA
& Pinnacle

Thats a pretty weak list. I would imagine that attendance would be at an all-time low. Anyone know if any of these will be scheduling interviews at the show?

 

[Maxwell Smart]

POOR KIT DARBY - I GUESS NO NEW YACHT THIS YEAR FOR YOU - I 'M SORRY KIT -IS THE GUY AT AVIATION INTERVIEWS.COM PUTTING YOU OUTA BUSINESS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T CHARGE ANYTHING AND GIVES BETTER UP TO DATE INFO??????- BOO HOO- BOO HOO- KIT DARBY IS A FREAKIN PARASITE- LIVING OFF THE HOPES AND DREAMS OF OTHERS - AND SUCKING THEM DRY - (in my humble opinon) KIT DARBY IS ROBBING PEOPLE BLIND! max

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

sooo, I gues what you're really saying then, you're not going to the fair and are not a big fan of mister Darby?

 

[Flyingchef]

Some of the conferences are good. Last year LAX should have been canx. Seems the LAX conference is alway lacking in companies. The only good thing I see so far at this years LAX is ALASKA. You cannot get a resume to them unless you have an inside or go to the conference. Although I know of NO ONE that has got an interview from them that attended in the past few years. I heard COMAIR backed out on some interviews that they scheduled at the Dallas Conf. So, who knows. I have attended three conferences and heard nothing. I am currently happy to be in a pool with the company I wanted and did not get that from the conference. I guess there might be some people getting interviews through the conference, but in todays environment, it is tough. The positive is you get face time, and you never know, it only takes one time to meet the right person, if you do not go broke first.
Flyingchef

 

[rk772]

What do you mean by Comair backed out of some interviews? Did they call some people and tell them "we scheduled you for an interview, but we changed our mind?" I find that hard to believe. I went to the fair and scheduled an interview with them for this comming week.

 

[Flyingchef]

rk772.
I was told by a reserve guy that he was scheduled for an interview and Comair called him and said that his interview was not happening , but may get rescheduled.
This was sometime last week or the week before. I was surprised to here it. The conferences I have been to, Comair normally does interview scheduling. The company probably got overwhelmed and is rescheduling. The line was huge. I did not drop my resume there, but I met some of the people at DC and Dallas, (same group). They were a great group of people. Who knows why this happened , maybe the guy backed out himself.( he is also a helo guy) It seems like a great company. The training phase is the only drawback.(7 days paid by company, 83 days paid by employee). I can't remember, but I think they do get 250.00 a week. That may pay for hotel. The bigger they get, I am sure that will change.
Flyingchef

 

[IMBB]

Otto_Pilot,

Hasn't it been that most of the airlines that come to the shows sign up sooner to the show date? Two months out is a bit far to be calling the list "weak"! Don't you think?

IMBB

 

[Anais Nin]

POOR KIT DARBY - I GUESS NO NEW YACHT THIS YEAR FOR YOU - I 'M SORRY KIT -IS THE GUY AT AVIATION INTERVIEWS.COM PUTTING YOU OUTA BUSINESS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T CHARGE ANYTHING AND GIVES BETTER UP TO DATE INFO??????- BOO HOO- BOO HOO- KIT DARBY IS A FREAKIN PARASITE- LIVING OFF THE HOPES AND DREAMS OF OTHERS - AND SUCKING THEM DRY - (in my humble opinon) KIT DARBY IS ROBBING PEOPLE BLIND! max

Maxwell, you could stand to attend an Air, Inc. seminar! I highly doubt you are even in the running for a potential airline job anyway, considering how eloquently you speak! There's no room for ebonics here, Mr. Smart!
"Just say No" to drugs!

 

[Maxwell Smart]

ANUS- I hope you come to my airline for an interview - so I can roll over and tell yo Mama - you din't get no job------MAX

 

[crosscut]

Maxwell, you could stand to attend an Air, Inc. seminar! I highly doubt you are even in the running for a potential airline job anyway, considering how eloquently you speak! There's no room for ebonics here, Mr. Smart!
"Just say No" to drugs!

Nice attempt to deter the attention away from his arguments.

Kit’s seminars & pubs (at their current rates) are a self-serving attempt to take an unfair advantage of people looking for jobs. I would respect him if he was, at least, honest in his disclosure of today’s environment but instead he offers his empty rhetoric of unfulfilled promises in hopes of someone biting (as many do). I had previously been an Air inc member. His prices are unreasonable because he has monopoly on job fairs (only source now days to meet an airline rep) and interview material stats/profiles. If he’d only come out & say, “Dear Customer, your quals don’t cut the mustard, but I’ll take you money as long as you know the odds are against you, but stranger things have happened,” instead of his usual flashes, “airlines are looking for pilots.” Buyer Beware.

"Say no to drugs" - you lost me on that one?

 

[Richard]

Maxwell and the Darby Haters:

I know Kit and his organization are a big targets for you guys to take out your frustrations on, but may I point out a few things:

1. Air Inc. is a business, not a charity ward or shoulder to cry on for out of work pilots. It's not expoitation to run a business that brings airlines and pilots together for seminars. Sure, the hiring outlook is bleak, but that isn't Kit's fault (hell, his airline is about to go TU!). And if you think its a waste of your time to go to his seminar, THEN DON'T GO!

2. The world is filled with naysayers just like yourself. Unwittingly, you and your ilk do a tremendous disservice to pilots looking for work. You rob them of hope and foster useless contempt for an organization that has provided numerous pilots their current airline job (myself included). Thankfully, I didn't know of Flightinfo.com prior to my Air Inc. Conference. If I had, I may have decided not to go, or been off my game thinking I was wasting my time and money.

3. Do they pass out some airline "kool-aid" at these seminars? Sure, it's a business! But with a proper filter and the right attitude, a pilot may just be able to land an airline job. Then again, maybe not. No guarantees, just opportunities.

So until you start hosting an airline conference out of you home basement that competes with Kit, I guess the rest of us lunkheads will just have to go the the next Air Inc. conference in LAX.

By then, Kit may even be looking for another dream airline job!

 

[Singlecoil]

The only good thing I see so far at this years LAX is ALASKA. You cannot get a resume to them unless you have an inside or go to the conference. Although I know of NO ONE that has got an interview from them that attended in the past few years.

I can think of at least a dozen who got interviews at Alaska after going to Air-Inc, OBAP, or WIA in the last two years.

 

[Stephen]

I can think of at least a dozen who got interviews at Alaska after going to Air-Inc, OBAP, or WIA in the last two years.

So, are there any job fair options for regular white guys besides Kit? Yes, I know that OBAP doesn't discrimitate on race, and WIA doesn't discriminate on sex, but I can imagine that recriuters would think I'm a low-life for showing up at OBAP or WIA.

 

[bobbysamd]

Kit Darby

Don't waste your money, and more importantly, time, by feathering the Pied Piper of Pilot Shortage's nest and wallet. I went to a Kit FAPA seminar in LAX ten years ago, when there was a similar hiring and economic slowdown. I did not learn any more than I already knewn and Kit's exhibitors weren't interested in someone with my quals, anyway.

Ten years ago there was no internet and it was hard to obtain timely information about the industry. Kit has been eclipsed by the information age. You can run internet searches for contact information. Message boards such as this one are a great source of real-time information as well.

Someone suggested some time ago that Kit should redraft his business plan to help furloughed pilots cope and find their way back instead of promoting sophistries about pilot shortages and large hiring. I think that's a great idea.

I appreciate Richard's point that Kit is running a business. A business founded on promoting half-truths.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

Richard- You know I don't have so much of the beef with the Conference- but its like a continuous info commercial before you get to meet and greet-- And Kit is still charging 200 bucks - multiply that by how many people are in the room - and you will grasp how much coin Kit is pulling in - - Not to mention his info commercial during the conference - every speaker has something to sell and Kit is taking his "Fittty percent" - making a bundle- I have absolutely no respect for that man- Yeah if he were handing jobs out left and right- sure- but all he is doing is getting the recruiters together - buying them a nice dinner and selling that too you for 200 bucks-- is overhead is probably w/lunch about 20 bucks per person- you figure out his profit margin-- MAX