Air Tran Bid: Is it closed? Results?

[texman]

About 150.

150 of the bottom? What base did they get?

 

[Skyboy722]

How many 717 CA slots were there?

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

737Fo. Went to about 1350 on our list.

 

[Lear70]

Bases don't work like that.

NOT ONE SINGLE AIRTRAN PILOT WILL KNOW THEIR SOUTHWEST BASE UNTIL THEY ARE FINISHING IOE AT SOUTHWEST.

This was just to figure out what plane you are going into for the next 3 years and whether you can hold CA on the 717.

 

[Lear70]

It's too hard to tell, the way the PDF sheet I have is laid out, it's difficult to read straight-line and won't copy and convert into an Excel spreadsheet for easy sorting.

As far as I can tell, out of the bottom 450, the top 75 (approximate) of those guys got 737 F/O. The bottom 375 are on the 717, which means about 140-ish F/O's who could have held 737 F/O took 717 F/O instead. Most of those were at the top of the F/O list, surprisingly enough. The top 100 numbers of the 717 F/O seat went senior.

 

[vixin]

Some may be comfortable where they are.

 

[humveedriver]

It's also interesting that although mid-level SWA 737 F/O's will make more if they "work the system", and our pilots are aware of that, almost every pilot that COULD remain a 717 Captain did so, even though they could have been a mid-level or even senior F/O.

Indicates the CA seat was more important than the extra money as a F/O working the system.

I counted about 180 of the top 500 pilots took the voluntary downgrade. Thats roughly 36 percent. Not sure if you looked at the whole list. Also noted that the junior 717 Captain will be 07/2004 DOH.

 

[DC10]

Humvee, I saw the same thing. I'm a mid-junior 73 Capt who bid 73FO and there are at least 170 guys senior to me who did the same as me.

No shortage of captains (myself included) who thought it would be better to be a SWA FO than a FL capt.

 

[Lear70]

Just saying the majority didn't... I guess the interpretation is in the mind of the beholder.

 

[Ralph Wiggums]

Sorry if I can't deduce the answer to this question from the above thread, but what seniority level pilots will come to the SWA list with the transition of the first few AirTran 737 aircraft?

Where do these folks slot in the integrated list?

 

[slaquer5]

It's also interesting that although mid-level SWA 737 F/O's will make more if they "work the system", and our pilots are aware of that, almost every pilot that COULD remain a 717 Captain did so, even though they could have been a mid-level or even senior F/O.

Indicates the CA seat was more important than the extra money as a F/O working the system.

Why do you put out this mis information? I can only think you can't move on and try and be a part of one team SWA. Your a snake in the grass.

 

[Daddy]

Humvee, I saw the same thing. I'm a mid-junior 73 Capt who bid 73FO and there are at least 170 guys senior to me who did the same as me.

No shortage of captains (myself included) who thought it would be better to be a SWA FO than a FL capt.

Where do you think the bulk will try to go for a base? MCO? BWI?

 

[Daddy]

Staying on the 717 makes sense for some as it appears to guarantee an east coast base and no commuting to OAK. Losing money might be worth it in the short term to many...probably would for me.

 

[Citrusflyer]

Staying on the 717 makes sense for some as it appears to guarantee an east coast base and no commuting to OAK. Losing money might be worth it in the short term to many...probably would for me.

Not to mention that seniority within the 717 is better, for most, than if they went over to the 737 side. Even if some of the 717 guys can't hold ATL, once the entire fleet is on the SWA side there will (hopefully) be the ability for some trip trades. Motivations for each choice is, obviously, personal .. but universally (except for the 'haters') everyone seems happy.

 

[humveedriver]

Sorry if I can't deduce the answer to this question from the above thread, but what seniority level pilots will come to the SWA list with the transition of the first few AirTran 737 aircraft?

Where do these folks slot in the integrated list?

Good question. We dont know yet. SWA planning will look at the bid and come up with their plan. Will it be all ATL? All Captains? A mix? We are waiting to see as well.