CLARKGRSWOLD
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What was the date, this bill went into effect ?
What was the date, this bill went into effect ?
In June we will have the oldest of the geezers hitting 62 1/2. I think we might see about half of the over 60 crowd hang it up when they get to that point, so maybe the number will start ticking up this summer as we continue the countdown to Dec 2012 when age 65 ends and the Mayan calendar says the world will come to an end.
2012, huh? 2012....according to Hollywood Mayans, the end of the world happens in 2012 ... I'd say that it's pretty successful management to have the next major airline hiring boom occur during the end times.
I wonder who'll fly the light twin that rescues John Cusack after ALL THAT HIRING....
Yeah! December 14, 2007 and you will see a lot`s oldies bailing out as soon as they turned 62 1/2.
That's what everyone is saying now. My bet is once they reach 62 1/2 the thinking will then become "well...I made it this far...whats another 2 and a half years ??? "; especially if they can still pass the physicals and checkrides. Hard to walk away from that kinda of scratch ...just watch.
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I agree, I am a corporate pilot for a very large company. One of the pilots is 68 years old and won't leave. I am quite tired of babysitting. The company is scared to fire him for fear he will sue over age discrimination.
This year he will fly 200 hrs and makes very good money (Twice as much as me) , so why would he leave; he already is is retired.
I have flown with him for nearly 10 years and have been a good FO. When I was promoted to Captain he had an issue with flying as my FO on a trip around the world, the worst part being he went to my boss instead of coming to me. He did not take a pay cut and regarless who's name was on the paperwork the experience level was the same in the cockpit. Prior to this, I called this man a friend. Now I think he is a giant headed ego-maniac with rapidly deteriorating skills and I mean rapidly. Like an old boxer who won't bow out gracefully and suffers a 1 punch KO.
The only thing you can do is not support them. Stop making them look good and fly the airplane so you don't take the violation that belongs to them.
This is also a lesson for us; don't depend on pensions, save what ever you can, don't live out of your means and please, get out of the cockpit at 60!
I agree, I am a corporate pilot for a very large company. One of the pilots is 68 years old and won't leave. I am quite tired of babysitting. The company is scared to fire him for fear he will sue over age discrimination.
This year he will fly 200 hrs and makes very good money (Twice as much as me) , so why would he leave; he already is is retired.
I have flown with him for nearly 10 years and have been a good FO. When I was promoted to Captain he had an issue with flying as my FO on a trip around the world, the worst part being he went to my boss instead of coming to me. He did not take a pay cut and regarless who's name was on the paperwork the experience level was the same in the cockpit. Prior to this, I called this man a friend. Now I think he is a giant headed ego-maniac with rapidly deteriorating skills and I mean rapidly. Like an old boxer who won't bow out gracefully and suffers a 1 punch KO.
The only thing you can do is not support them. Stop making them look good and fly the airplane so you don't take the violation that belongs to them.
This is also a lesson for us; don't depend on pensions, save what ever you can, don't live out of your means and please, get out of the cockpit at 60!
I agree, I am a corporate pilot for a very large company. One of the pilots is 68 years old and won't leave. I am quite tired of babysitting. The company is scared to fire him for fear he will sue over age discrimination.
This year he will fly 200 hrs and makes very good money (Twice as much as me) , so why would he leave; he already is is retired.
I have flown with him for nearly 10 years and have been a good FO. When I was promoted to Captain he had an issue with flying as my FO on a trip around the world, the worst part being he went to my boss instead of coming to me. He did not take a pay cut and regarless who's name was on the paperwork the experience level was the same in the cockpit. Prior to this, I called this man a friend. Now I think he is a giant headed ego-maniac with rapidly deteriorating skills and I mean rapidly. Like an old boxer who won't bow out gracefully and suffers a 1 punch KO.
The only thing you can do is not support them. Stop making them look good and fly the airplane so you don't take the violation that belongs to them.
This is also a lesson for us; don't depend on pensions, save what ever you can, don't live out of your means and please, get out of the cockpit at 60!
...as we continue the countdown to Dec 2012 when age 65 ends and the Mayan calendar says the world will come to an end.
You an always drop a dime on him to the anonymous FAA safety hotline. You don't have to provide a name.
Another reason why the age 65 rule needs to be applied to Part 135/91/91K. We still have about 300 at NetJets over age 60 (some over 70!!!) even after the 200 that took the early buyout. Many (not all) of these guys can't pull their own weight as far as loading bags, staying awake in the cockpit, etc that fractional flying demands. Guess who does all the work then? Pretty frustrating considering 495 of us (myself included) are hitting the street in January. I personally feel a line needs to be drawn somewhere in the best interest of safety.
Yes, yes I know. There are guys in their 60's that run marathons and can fly the Space Shuttle and guys in their 40's you wouldn't trust with chopsticks let alone a 40 million dollar jet but the world is ruled by generalities because it has to be. You can't regulate by the exception.
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Another reason why the age 65 rule needs to be applied to Part 135/91/91K. We still have about 300 at NetJets over age 60 (some over 70!!!) even after the 200 that took the early buyout. Many (not all) of these guys can't pull their own weight as far as loading bags, staying awake in the cockpit, etc that fractional flying demands. Guess who does all the work then? Pretty frustrating considering 495 of us (myself included) are hitting the street in January. I personally feel a line needs to be drawn somewhere in the best interest of safety.