Age 60 informal poll

[mdanno808]

I'll give you credit...you accept being part of an entitled group

We all think we're entitled to something. The old guys think they're entitled to another 5 years at the top of the game. The young guys think they're entitled to the old guys seat. Give it a rest with the cane shaking gramps.

 

[JoeMerchant]

We all think we're entitled to something. The old guys think they're entitled to another 5 years at the top of the game. The young guys think they're entitled to the old guys seat. Give it a rest with the cane shaking gramps.

Everyone in this so called union believe they are entitled to something regardless of how it affects the others.....Can we move past this silly notion of a "brotherhood"?

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

It looks like the age-65 rule is working very well doesn't it.

 

[whymeworry?]

Age-65 guys should be the first to get furloughed.

 

[Flopgut]

It looks like the age-65 rule is working very well doesn't it.

It's working as well for a majority of us still flying as it did for guys like you who missed the cut.

Were the immediate affects of this rule not a foregone conclusion?

How is your lawsuit going?

 

[Flopgut]

Just to verbalize a concern:

Age 65 is failed no less than 60 was. You won't hear the complaining right now because fools soaking up the immediate windfall are happy for the moment. We don't retire at 65 folks. You don't make your plan based on 65. You fix your plan on age 63.5 or so. You have to figure out what you're going to bid equipment wise so you know your pay or pay protection. If you don't have it figured in your last 12 months you've screwed yourself. With all the recent retirement account losses I'm too sure there are guys/gals flying past 60 who aren't going to be ready. I'm seeing a lot old pilots strut around like everything is OK not talking about other retirement issues. I don't think they've got a plan; I hope they don't think they'll get another age increase.

Don't burden us any more people! Get yourselves ready to retire.

 

[MCDU]

National strike of the pilots in France from November 14th to 17th
French airline pilots´ unions have unanimously called a four-day strike from Friday 14 November at one minute past midnight to Monday 17 November at midnight, to protest against changes to the retirement age currently under discussion in the French Parliament (changing from 60 to 65)
Air France is expecting very severe disruptions to its operations and apologizes to passengers in advance for this highly regrettable situation.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

National strike of the pilots in France from November 14th to 17th
French airline pilots´ unions have unanimously called a four-day strike from Friday 14 November at one minute past midnight to Monday 17 November at midnight, to protest against changes to the retirement age currently under discussion in the French Parliament (changing from 60 to 65)
Air France is expecting very severe disruptions to its operations and apologizes to passengers in advance for this highly regrettable situation.

What a bunch of lazy-a$$ Frogs. What's wrong with working like the rest of the world. This figures though, remember the Frogs take 2-3 hour lunch breaks and nothing gets done all day. They are all part of the “Wine Tasting” crowd.

 

[pipe]

What a bunch of lazy-a$$ Frogs. What's wrong with working like the rest of the world. This figures though, remember the Frogs take 2-3 hour lunch breaks and nothing gets done all day. They are all part of the “Wine Tasting” crowd.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The French pilots are doing what we should have done.

PIPE

 

[JoeMerchant]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The French pilots are doing what we should have done.

PIPE

The Europeans can't afford the retirement benefits they have....We would be smart to learn from their mistakes.....

Retirement at 60 works fine if you only live to 65.....Financially it doesn't work if you live to 85+.....The math doesn't add up.....

 

[Freight Dog]

Anyone watch our former Comptroller General spilling Washington's "dirty little secret" that everyone knows about?

Baby boomers will ultimately bankrupt this nation. Watch this clip... talk about a wake-up call.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS2fI2p9iVs

 

[Flopgut]

What a bunch of lazy-a$$ Frogs. What's wrong with working like the rest of the world. This figures though, remember the Frogs take 2-3 hour lunch breaks and nothing gets done all day. They are all part of the “Wine Tasting” crowd.

From the guy who didn't return to UAL like he claimed he would, And snubbed his nose at a lucrative deal overseas, AND is likely a principal in a lawsuit against ALPA suing for damages on age 65 representation. But he's not in a real big hurry on the lawsuit. Like the rest of his generation, he wants the money but doesn't actaully want to do the work.

 

[kwick]

Doctors and most professionals work as long as they are capable.

The airline industry has taken a step in the right direction.

Deal with reality, or move on and go to an airline that offers quicker upgrades .

How you react says alot about your character.

Many of the whiners and moaners would not even pass their upgrades because they can't deal with change or adversity. Would you really want them flying a plane with paying passengers?

 

[airdog]

Look out for old pilots becoming new hires

The end-game for continued cost competition among airlines is to hire old pilots that never get very senior before they hit 65 - keeps your pilot cost structure low. Look for the next Mesa to be "Old Geezers Airlines".

 

[Hamburger]

Doctors and most professionals work as long as they are capable.

News flash, genius. Doctors and most professionals don't operate on a strictly seniority system. They can take their years of experience and command comparable compensation from another employer.

Deal with reality, or move on and go to an airline that offers quicker upgrades .

If you honestly think you can just go to a comparable airline that offers a quicker upgrade, you are beyond clueless. That's options that doctors and other professionals have. We have to start at the bottom of another list.
The best part is where you admonish us for not dealing with reality.

How you react says alot about your character.

The author of the statement below has no business commenting on character.

Many of the whiners and moaners would not even pass their upgrades because they can't deal with change or adversity. Would you really want them flying a plane with paying passengers?

My Hero. You must be the only pilot in the history of aviation that has never once complained about anything ever. Especially about something that means hundreds of thousands of dollars of lost income and missing five more years of your kid's life. Because if you did, that would make you unfit for command because you can't handle adversity, right?

Age-65 guys should be the first to get furloughed.

Best idea I've heard in a long time.