Again, USAir is still looking for that next merger.......

[ackattacker]

Nah. The crew room experts have the unlucky airline pegged as, Drum Roll Plz.
American Airlines. Least amount of overlap and with their financials hanging on the stick shaker Dougie is getting ready to open up his check book and cook up some sort of prepackaged bankruptcy plan that will allow American Management the time they need to work over their labor groups before the deal is done. Trust me I am no cheerleader for US merging with anyone as I presently reside at the bottom (3rd list) and will be lucky to stay on the property when the dust settles. God help us all when merger fever strikes in Tempe.

This strikes me as the most likely of a series of unlikely mergers. From a route and business perspective it makes the most sense. I have no idea how a SLI would look, but there is a theory that says it could be chance for everybody to take a deep breath, step back, and start anew. Wishful thinking maybe. AA and the East side could be close enough in age/relative position/DOH to merge fairly peacefully... the West has the most to lose in a merger, but perhaps given a much larger list the rest of the pilot group could be convinced to slot them in something approaching relative seniority position since it would have minor negative impact on everybody else. 1600 West pilots into a combined list of over 14,000.

 

[TWA Dude]

It was a new article from a CLT point of view.

Can't wait for a new article about the sunrise -- from a European perspective. They see it before we do!

Deeply encased within the word 'news' is the short word 'new' meaning 'not heard a zillion times before'.

 

[Flyer1015]

I remember Parker throwing the word "synergies" around regarding US Airways and Delta. What about the "synergies" with AWA? How about he fix one merger before reaching out for another? He's in over his head. IMO, another merger will land him a golden parachute, of which he badly wants to pull the rip cord on.......

 

[General Lee]

I remember Parker throwing the word "synergies" around regarding US Airways and Delta. What about the "synergies" with AWA? How about he fix one merger before reaching out for another? He's in over his head. IMO, another merger will land him a golden parachute, of which he badly wants to pull the rip cord on.......

Do you think Tilton at UAL wanted to merge for the good of the company? No, I think it was for the golden parachutte. What about Parker? He does well now, but those guys are all looking for the "big score." Of course, he actually may want to be the new CEO of a combined AA/US, and Arpey can go sit on his pile of cash in DFW.....all speculation of course.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[spacecadet1]

USAir/AA, the mother of all abortions.

 

[Tomct]

USAir/AA, the mother of all abortions.

QUICK....take the morning after pill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Saabslime]

I used to think the AA merger talk was pure B.S. but a friend of mine who is the head of customer support for one of our parts vendors tells me they've been tasked with crunching the numbers for a combined fleet between US and AA...........son of a:bawling:

 

[Turtle21]

I used to think the AA merger talk was pure B.S. but a friend of mine who is the head of customer support for one of our parts vendors tells me they've been tasked with crunching the numbers for a combined fleet between US and AA...........son of a:bawling:

Was your friend tasked to crunch the numbers when USAir and United or Delta were in talks?

 

[flythere]

As I said before, Us Air is looking for another victim!

 

[On Your Six]

This strikes me as the most likely of a series of unlikely mergers. From a route and business perspective it makes the most sense. I have no idea how a SLI would look, but there is a theory that says it could be chance for everybody to take a deep breath, step back, and start anew. Wishful thinking maybe. AA and the East side could be close enough in age/relative position/DOH to merge fairly peacefully... the West has the most to lose in a merger, but perhaps given a much larger list the rest of the pilot group could be convinced to slot them in something approaching relative seniority position since it would have minor negative impact on everybody else. 1600 West pilots into a combined list of over 14,000.

Nobody on the USAir side would start over. If there were an SLI with AA, the USAir side would use the binding arbitration award from Nicelau, and the USAir East side would have to accept it. I am sure the AA guys wouldn't put up with the East side nonsense. The question is "could you ever trust them again with any agreement?". Their signature on anything has very little credibility.


OYS

 

[General Lee]

Nobody on the USAir side would start over. If there were an SLI with AA, the USAir side would use the binding arbitration award from Nicelau, and the USAir East side would have to accept it. I am sure the AA guys wouldn't put up with the East side nonsense. The question is "could you ever trust them again with any agreement?". Their signature on anything has very little credibility.


OYS

OYS,

I have been saying that since the Easties said no and kicked ALPA out. They are a bunch of wheenies. Those guys at American are going to love dealing with them if they ever do merge. I think the American pilot group is larger than the Easties, so USAPA would be voted out too, and then they would be in trouble.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Full of LUV]

OYS,

I have been saying that since the Easties said no and kicked ALPA out. They are a bunch of wheenies. Those guys at American are going to love dealing with them if they ever do merge. I think the American pilot group is larger than the Easties, so USAPA would be voted out too, and then they would be in trouble.


Bye Bye---General Lee

That would be a path out of the quagmire that is us air's current SLI. APA would become the agent for the combined pilot group, acccept Nic, and negotiate from there, hopefully with an industry leading contract.

 

[waveflyer]

Not only that, the only reason the east has gotten away with what it has is bc they have a voting majority- one that would disappear immediately w/ a merger w/ a larger carrier. And AA pilots would NOT put up w/ an attempt.

 

[reepicheep]

I think the AA folks would be fine with Nic. - they would happily propose to keep it intact when they staple it to the bottom of their list.

 

[eaglesview]

If AA were to merge with USAir the only heartburn would be with the west. It's not rocket science here. The East does not pose a threat to anyones career. By the time the dust settled a large portion of them would be gone or about to head out the door. Not so on the West side. If I were an AA pilot I would through the nic out in a heartbeat and start over. The Nic puts younger pilots higher up the list. Younger pilots ahead of you on the seniority list is bad news. Older folks ahead of you is temporary bad news. AA's pilot age with USAirs would be a win for the West no matter where they ended up. Problem is, like it or not, is the the West pilots seem to want instant reward.