Aerobatic Maneuvers

[FlyingFisherman]

I don't buy it.

The guy in the article is an accomplished pilot.

The WMU guy is most likely not in california but...get this...at WMU. Most likely such a place is located in Western Michigan but I can only speculate.

You were, and very poorly, trying to be funny making light of someone's death. I'll keep that in mind when I read about you in a smoking hole.

 

[FN FAL]

I don't buy it.

The guy in the article is an accomplished pilot.

The WMU guy is most likely not in california but...get this...at WMU. Most likely such a place is located in Western Michigan but I can only speculate.

You were, and very poorly, trying to be funny making light of someone's death. I'll keep that in mind when I read about you in a smoking hole.

Define "is".

 

[wmuflyguy]

I don't buy it.

The guy in the article is an accomplished pilot.

The WMU guy is most likely not in california but...get this...at WMU. Most likely such a place is located in Western Michigan but I can only speculate.

You were, and very poorly, trying to be funny making light of someone's death. I'll keep that in mind when I read about you in a smoking hole.

It is in Western Michigan.

The article said he was flying a Extra-300S. WMU has -300L's I believe (tandem seating).

Chickenhawk wouldn't be alone in the plane, he would be with a properly qualified instructor, the one he was scheduled to go with I know personally and is a great instrucor and a stand up guy.

 

[cezzna]

That comment was just wrong. Do I smell penalty box?

 

[psysicx]

Can anybody sign up to fly at an airshow?

 

[FlyingFisherman]

When it comes to aerobatics and a display...nope. I'm not exactly sure of the waivers required but they exist. Thanks for the homework assignment

On the other hand, I've flown all four positions in a finger 4 of 172s doing a flyby on the way to breakfast more than once

 

[mcjohn]

Hear say:
You progressively get waivers as you become experienced doing the shows. FAA starts you at 1000' then 500' then unlimited or something like that.

 

[Huggyu2]

No, FAA doesn't run the low level competency program. ICAS does. The Feds don't want to be involved. I believe it goes 800', then 500', then 250', then surface.

 

[sky37d]

then surface.

Is that a submarine??
I thought we were talking about airplanes.

 

[mcjohn]

No, FAA doesn't run the low level competency program. ICAS does. The Feds don't want to be involved. I believe it goes 800', then 500', then 250', then surface.

The feds have to be involved on some level because going below 1000' in congested area or below 500' in a non-congested area is a direct violation of the FARs.

 

[FlyingFisherman]

You fill out an FAA form. I think it's an 8710-7. I looked into it a while back when I was buying a Pitts. That fell through and so did my search.

Have to call the friendly neighborhood airshow performer and find out some details.

 

[Ill Mitch]

It's not as blissful as ignorance. But, hey it's an anonymous forum. You wouldn't get away with making light of a down aero pilot in person with any competition, IAC or enthusiast circles.

I learned that lesson when I made a comment on a poor aileron roll done by a sukhoi pilot while practicing in her new airplane. 3 guys (world class competition pilots) came to me quietly and privately one by one to make sure I understood clearly that you do not make fun of other people's aerobatics. I would consider myself fortunate I learned the lessons I learned at 20. Unfortunately you've never flown IAC. You'd know better.

Wow, then you hung out with some pilots with super fragile egos.
When I was donig the IAC, competition, airshow thing, we made fun of everyone mistakes. No holds barred.

 

[FN FAL]

Wow, then you hung out with some pilots with super fragile egos.
When I was donig the IAC, competition, airshow thing, we made fun of everyone mistakes. No holds barred.

I think they were mad at his comments because of his whuffo status.

 

[FlyingFisherman]

Wow, then you hung out with some pilots with super fragile egos.
When I was donig the IAC, competition, airshow thing, we made fun of everyone mistakes. No holds barred.

I was new, I made a pretty nasty comment. I didn't know the person and they knew that. Lesson learned. It wasn't ribbing friends...and FNFAL certainly isn't a friendly ribbing toward the WMU kid using someone's untimely death as a joke.

I was out of line then, would be nice for FNFAL to see that he's out of line now.

 

[FN FAL]

I was new, I made a pretty nasty comment. I didn't know the person and they knew that. Lesson learned. It wasn't ribbing friends...and FNFAL certainly isn't a friendly ribbing toward the WMU kid using someone's untimely death as a joke.

I was out of line then, would be nice for FNFAL to see that he's out of line now.

Dude, if people wan't to do wheelies with their Ninja's, rock climb without safety equipment and fly their high performance aerobatic planes upside down and it ends badly...booyah. Not my problem and honestly, I don't care what the rednecks down at International Dudes Doing Wheelies with Sportbikes say when some 24 year-old gets creamed on Ninja doing stunts. If they don't like it, I'll have my posse down at the United States Parachute Association come and talk to them quietly in their hotel rooms.