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HMMMM....

2 "older" guys with 20 year olds going to AC (or going back there, I thiink thats where the plane was based (over at ACY)).

Bet them 2 20yr old were "pros" themselves if you know what I mean. There are lots of "pros" in the ACY area.

Flying 135 out of Philly I often went to ACY and picked up "older" men. funny thing is many of them were accompanied by much much yunger "professional" women. ACY to youngstown OH or Parkersburg WV was an often flown run by my company. Did it many times in a navajo. Mafia looking guy and his one or two "guests".
 
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Is it me or was he MOVIN' down that runway?
 
The guy obviously doesn't quite have both ores in the water. No pun intended of course. :)
 
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I think they changed the video...the old one showed the engine running in the water and the plane moving.
 
VampyreGTX said:
Here's the ANN report with a little more info...

An airport worker saw the jet do a low pass over runway 22 (2445 feet) where it flew close to a baseball stadium before turning back to the airport to approach runway 11 (2948 feet). A call from a neighbor prompted Klieger to go outside in time to see the aircraft attempt to land on runway 11.

Klieger said that the jet appeared to come in 'too fast,' and was unable to stop before going off the end of the runway into the water. Nearby boaters rescued the four on board, but the drama was just getting started.

If they landed runway 11 then they are even more stupid then I thought. 12 knot direct tailwind... calculate the landing distance for that. The guy looked like a dofus in the video clip, smiling and acting like it wasn't his fault "we had an ahh malfunction in an airplane system..."
 
The owners of this jet, Weibel Scientific A/S, in Alleröd/Denmark does not have the best of reputations when it comes to aircraft operations. Neither does the skipper.

As for the two passengers, they are both employees of Weibel Scientific. That they happen to be in their 20ies is coincidential. Their good looks, however, is a consequence of being of Danish stock; we rarely make them ugly over here ;)

Bloody long way to take a CJ2. RKE to ACY is around 3400NM great circle, I didn't think a dinky little toy like that was allowed to stray so far from home.

As for the registration - pretty cool innit? If the aircraft is a write-off that's kind of sad, as you are not allowed to re-use aircraft registrations in Denmark. Unless your name is Maersk McKinney-Möller of course (OY-MMM has been used on two HS125s, is currently on a CL604 and is rumoured to be headed for a Global Express XRS). Being the richest guy in Scandihoovia does have it's privileges.
 
EuroWheenie said:
Bloody long way to take a CJ2. RKE to ACY is around 3400NM great circle, I didn't think a dinky little toy like that was allowed to stray so far from home.

I think one of the news articles said the flight had originated in Burlington, Vermont.
 
It defintely wasn't one way that for sure.

The CJ2 only has a top range of around 1,500nm in favorable conditions.

And you shouldn't knock the CJ's so much about flying over the pond. We recently took one of ours over to Russia for two months. Flew like a champ, and never had a bit of trouble with it.

Heck, I know a guy that flies his Mooney across the pond about once a year. I'd take the CJ2 ANYDAY over flying that!
 
The definitive word...

Atlantic City Jet Brakes Check Out

Too Much Speed, Too Little Runway
Remember the Cessna Citation that ran off the end of the Bader Field's
runway and into the bay two weeks ago? The NTSB preliminary report says that
the brakes and emergency brakes were working during the incident on Sunday,
May 15th, 2005.

As reported on ANN, Erik Larsen, the pilot of the jet, told investigators
that his brakes had failed after landing. Luckily, he and the other three
people on board only suffered minor injuries from their trip into the bay.

Jet traffic has been banned from Bader Field for years, and is published in
the Airport/Facility Directory. A few politicians are using this accident to
threaten the future of the airport.

NTSB Report:

NTSB Identification: NYC05LA085
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Sunday, May 15, 2005 in Atlantic City, NJ
Aircraft: Cessna 525A, registration: OY-JET
Injuries: 1 Minor, 3 Uninjured.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors.
Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been
completed.

On May 15, 2005, at 1548 eastern daylight time, a Danish-registered
(OY-JET), Cessna Citation 525A, was substantially damaged when it impacted
water during landing at Atlantic City Municipal Airport/Bader Field (AIY),
Atlantic City, New Jersey. The certificated private pilot received minor
injuries, and three passengers received no injuries. Visual meteorological
conditions prevailed and an instrument flight rules (IFR) flight plan was
filed for the flight which originated at the Burlington International
Airport (BTV), Burlington, Vermont. The business flight was conducted under
14 CFR Part 91.

The pilot reported to a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) inspector,
that he performed "one circle" around the airport, observed the windsock,
and then performed a landing on runway 11, a 2,948 foot-long, 100 foot-wide,
asphalt runway. During the landing roll, approximately 2/3 down the runway,
the pilot "lost the brakes," and was unable to stop on the remaining runway.
The airplane then continued off the departure end of the runway and impacted
the water.

A witness reported that he observed the airplane make a "low pass down
runway 29" and then return to land on runway 11. The witness stated the
airplane touched down about half way down the runway, and then slowed as it
impacted the water.

The airplane was examined by an FAA inspector after the accident. According
to the inspector, the brake system and emergency brake system were
functionally checked, and no abnormalities were noted. The anti-skid system
could not be tested, due to salt water damage. Examination of the emergency
brake system revealed it had not been used, and the nitrogen bottle gauge
indicated 1,800 psi. The flap selector was in the "ground" position, but the
indicator was in the 15 degree position. The left throttle lever was
observed in idle cut off, and the right throttle lever was bent to the right
at the idle stop.

Additionally, examination of the runway revealed tread marks beginning
approximately two-thirds down the runway, and continuing off the departure
end into the grass and dirt.

The winds reported at Atlantic City International Airport (ACY), 9 miles to
the northwest, at 1554, were from 280 degrees at 9 knots.

A review of the FAA Airport/Facility Directory for the Northeast U.S.,
revealed the following notation listed in the Airport Remarks section of the
Atlantic City/Bader Field Airport entry, "Arpt CLOSED to jet traffic."

According to the Cessna 525A Landing Distance Chart, an airplane with a
landing weight of 11,000 pounds required 2,930 feet of landing distance, in
a no wind situation. With a 10 knot tailwind, the airplane required 3,500
feet of landing distance.
 

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