ACA to fly 737's on our own!

[Bluto]

Fair enough

Just as long as you've got your eyes wide open. Since it seems that you're serious, I wish you luck.

 

[Gobi Gred]

You gotta love those rumors that come from the training department! It wasn't too long ago that I heard from one our instructors who is well respected that SkyWest could "look like a completely different company in a few months" meaning that we might be getting "big" planes. While those kind of rumors are no doubt exciting to hear, (hey I admit it, when those rumors were going around here, I got excited) the fact of the matter is that companies like SkyWest and ACA don't operate that kind of business model (flying large aircraft under their own colors). If ACA is forced to go that route they will be facing an uphill battle. Not only do they have to set up a reservation system which is costly, they also will have the additional expense of getting their name known to the public. The general public has no clue who ACA, ASA, Comair, SkyWest, etc. is. ACA seems to be a well run company though and if faced with the challenge of going at it alone, I wish them and their employees the best.

 

[Pilot877]

Here's some super-secret inside information.

ACA is going to be flying the old AirFrance Concorde parked on the ramp at Washington Dulles. I heard from one of our captains that we will be flying between Chicago O-Hare and Detroit with the overwater segments above Lake Michigan to be flown at supersonic speeds.

 

[rjcap]

The general public has no clue who ACA, ASA, Comair, SkyWest, etc. is.

The traveling public knows ASA very well.

They hate us !

 

[acaTerry]

acaterry,

and what rates will you fly the 737s, it wont undercut anyone else?

$900.00/hour soft pay. And no lines with less than 28 days off a month. Except RSV, only 25 for them.

 

[Flywrite]

You know you gotta wonder how many Doctors are out there thinking "I'm tired of the HMO and insurance B.S., the healthcare industry is in a downward spiral, so screw this, I'm going to flight school!"

 

[ACE]

The traveling public knows ASA very well. They hate us!

LMAO

 

[SkyWstman]

There comes a time when setting up a reservation system and all the other start up costs is a better alternative than having the major partner come to you every six months telling you to cut your costs or else we'll give the contract to someone else. When it's more costly not to venture out is when it will happen. Who knows when that will be. There are also those who would say "the major partner will drop you if you get bigger airplanes." True, but it wouldn't be in the best interest of either partner to cut all service instantly. A phase out plan over the course of time could be beneficial to both partners allowing the regional to phase out old flying and phase in new flying. The major partner would benefit from not losing all feed overnight. Then they would at the same time increase their operations with another partner. It's all possible with minimal damage to either partner and their employee groups.

 

[CRJ puppy]

So true...

 

[northeast]

You know you gotta wonder how many Doctors are out there thinking "I'm tired of the HMO and insurance B.S., the healthcare industry is in a downward spiral, so screw this, I'm going to flight school!"

Probably all of those doctors, whom are ten years out of school, still making mid to low 20's, based in a major city and spend 20 days on the road per month, not to mention waking up in a crash pad on EVERY holiday and having to justify every sick call.

My guess ZERO.

 

[PilotRon]

Well I just got shivers down my spine reading this thread.

It seems that perhaps the future to aviation could be working exactly opposite of the way we have always seen it. Regional airlines aquiring larger and larger jets while being paid 50 to 75 percent less in pay and operating expences. This could be the end of major airlines except perhaps to provide international travel only. Could it be that the future would read:

United Airlines to provide international connections FOR ACA airlines?

It seems that if pilot / company pay is willing to continue to go down, down, down, then that is EXACTLY where this will all end up. The AIRLINE with the cheapest rates will be the survivor, major airlines to be the feeder.


Any thoughts?

 

[acaTerry]

I'm no doctor, but they have it kind of sucky too. Thanks to our litigous society, malpractice premiums are driving some of them into retirement early, or failing in the early years.
I was talking to someone who was sued for malpractice because a childs mother wanted the childs tonsils preserved so she could keep them. Of course the case should go nowhere. Think of the implications: biohazard from human tissue, possible poisoning from the preservative, etc and so on...
Anyway, the doctors insurance paid up to settle out of court (cheaper than fighting it). His premiums went up to $4500 PER MONTH!!
I guess we're not the only ones getting bent after all.
Not to mention, they have medical school, residence, etc. Financially its gotta be he11. And being a doctor has got to be a lot harder than this. Think of all that stuff.....hurts my brain!

 

[aldonite7667]

FURLOUGHED

DUDE,

DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING TILL THE PLANES ARE AT THE MX HANGAR, AND YER IN TRAINING.

FURLOUGHED

 

[EX_CV580FR8Dawg]

Werent they planning on buying all the old Concordes from AF and BA?

 

[328jetdriver]

I heard we're getting 777's, 737's, 318's under the condition that the max. seating capacity is 50 seats. I guess to keep the pay down.