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You know you gotta wonder how many Doctors are out there thinking "I'm tired of the HMO and insurance B.S., the healthcare industry is in a downward spiral, so screw this, I'm going to flight school!"
 
There comes a time when setting up a reservation system and all the other start up costs is a better alternative than having the major partner come to you every six months telling you to cut your costs or else we'll give the contract to someone else. When it's more costly not to venture out is when it will happen. Who knows when that will be. There are also those who would say "the major partner will drop you if you get bigger airplanes." True, but it wouldn't be in the best interest of either partner to cut all service instantly. A phase out plan over the course of time could be beneficial to both partners allowing the regional to phase out old flying and phase in new flying. The major partner would benefit from not losing all feed overnight. Then they would at the same time increase their operations with another partner. It's all possible with minimal damage to either partner and their employee groups.:)
 
Flywrite said:
You know you gotta wonder how many Doctors are out there thinking "I'm tired of the HMO and insurance B.S., the healthcare industry is in a downward spiral, so screw this, I'm going to flight school!"

Probably all of those doctors, whom are ten years out of school, still making mid to low 20's, based in a major city and spend 20 days on the road per month, not to mention waking up in a crash pad on EVERY holiday and having to justify every sick call.

My guess ZERO.
 
Well I just got shivers down my spine reading this thread.

It seems that perhaps the future to aviation could be working exactly opposite of the way we have always seen it. Regional airlines aquiring larger and larger jets while being paid 50 to 75 percent less in pay and operating expences. This could be the end of major airlines except perhaps to provide international travel only. Could it be that the future would read:

United Airlines to provide international connections FOR ACA airlines?

It seems that if pilot / company pay is willing to continue to go down, down, down, then that is EXACTLY where this will all end up. The AIRLINE with the cheapest rates will be the survivor, major airlines to be the feeder.


Any thoughts?
 
I'm no doctor, but they have it kind of sucky too. Thanks to our litigous society, malpractice premiums are driving some of them into retirement early, or failing in the early years.
I was talking to someone who was sued for malpractice because a childs mother wanted the childs tonsils preserved so she could keep them. Of course the case should go nowhere. Think of the implications: biohazard from human tissue, possible poisoning from the preservative, etc and so on...
Anyway, the doctors insurance paid up to settle out of court (cheaper than fighting it). His premiums went up to $4500 PER MONTH!!
I guess we're not the only ones getting bent after all.
Not to mention, they have medical school, residence, etc. Financially its gotta be he11. And being a doctor has got to be a lot harder than this. Think of all that stuff.....hurts my brain!
 
FURLOUGHED

DUDE,

DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING TILL THE PLANES ARE AT THE MX HANGAR, AND YER IN TRAINING.

FURLOUGHED
 
Werent they planning on buying all the old Concordes from AF and BA?
 
I heard we're getting 777's, 737's, 318's under the condition that the max. seating capacity is 50 seats. I guess to keep the pay down.
 
Weren't they just supposed to get one Airbus A380 and go airport-to-airport and pick up and drop off pax as they go?
 
What did I tell you all

I told you guys, you failed to accept the fact. In your face.......Although they have yet to decide Boeing or Airbus....
 
Now Now Children...you dont wanna have to go in the corner for a time- out do ya?

congrats!
 
I told you guys, you failed to accept the fact. In your face.......Although they have yet to decide Boeing or Airbus....

Yes you did, and we all stand corrected, and hopefully you'll get to laugh louder.
 
Herman Bloom said:
If the ACA pilot group is presented with the opportunity to aquire "large" airplanes, I can assure all of you that our group WILL fly them for a substandard wage. We rolled over on the TA, and we'll sure as hell roll over on something like that. My guess is, if we got, say, 737s (probably never), our guys would be willing to fly them for about $80/hour captain, 50 or 60 fo. All in the name of growth. Well I won't do it, just like I wouldn't vote yes on that pos ta. Screw this I'm going to medical school.


Buh Bye! Have a nice life.
 
j41driver said:
Buh Bye! Have a nice life.

Herman,

This response is further proof that you are exactly right. These guys will be falling all over themselves for the opportunity to fly a 737 for $80/hr (or less), if given the chance. However, I think that chance is remote, since the financial community seems less than enamored at the idea of ACA becoming an independent LCC.
 
since the financial community seems less than enamored at the idea of ACA becoming an independent LCC.

What is this statement based on. Kerry Skeen said today in the conference call that they had all the backing they would need to go out on their own.
 

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