Abx?

[Sporto]

How about going it one better and get the union to hold the line on age 60. Doing this night flying until age 65 has no particular appeal to me, but with about a year and a half to go I don't think I'll have to worry about it.

I would vote for it (out at 60)......wonder how the total vote would go on this?

 

[penguin22]

My favorite OPF story was when a newly displaced 767 to 9 fo came up to me and said how life was rough because he had to work a ton of overtime now to cover his costs...I asked, " well, how long were you on the 767?" his reply almsot made me sh**, he said "six months"!!!!!!! All this and I was on furlough, yeah, that sat well.

Before I go on: don't even give me the crap that cutting out OPF won't help anybody or only a small few, while on furlough that arguement cut deep.

We still have guys on furlough--guys that have not had a chance to come back even once...

As far as you saying why should the senior guys give it up to help the junior? Well, let me ask you this...why can't you make it on your base salary alone? Did the junior guys overspend for you? Or was it your poor life choices that have you over the barrel?

I honestly would be ashamed if I couldn't: that says to me "I am too dumb to understand my spending limits"

The next time you fly with a senior FO who has been held out of a captain seat because of this, ask him how he/she feels. Think about the shrinking seniority list as the 767 open time continues to grow, far above contractual limits (even our union has bought into this by allowing a waiver, great, huh?) But, I guess you are so smart and insulated that you do your "couple" days open flying and go home, smug and secure.

The sad part is the middle level guys who are in effect holding themselves back from upgrade to either a captain seat or 767 right seat by bidding it all up.

Heres a solution to Japan...put it all in OPF, ten bucks says it will all be bid up, everything else does!

You sure are preachy... I'm guessing you're a lib.

 

[freighthound]

9 CA - 22, 17, 14, 22, 22, 18, 13, 15, 13, 16, 20, 17

9 FO - 13, 19

76 CA - 13, 18, 14, 12, 19, 19

76 FO - 15, 13, 17, 12, 15, 12, 16

Jet if you are trying to make a point at least get your information correct. These numbers you are using came directly from the companies OPF bid award. This report adds a day to any assignment where you return after midnight. Since most trips return after 0001 it adds one day to most assignments. Therefore a 1 day trip becomes 2, 2 day 3, etc. Take a little time to learn about the facts you are using. This too is a lovely trait of liberals, quoting facts that are either wrong, misleading, or taken out of context in order to support your point. I'm not disputing your whole arguement, just your facts, but it doesn't help you make your point when your evidence is distorted.

 

[ABXbooger]

You sure are preachy... I'm guessing you're a lib.

No definately not, what does that matter anyways, just tired of people living beyond their means and trying to justify screwing other people.

 

[erichartmann]

No definately not, what does that matter anyways, just tired of people living beyond their means and trying to justify screwing other people.

Just for the sake of arguement since I can bid open time, and can be reasonably assured of getting a certain number of days, how is it I'm living above my means? I'm really only living above my means if I'm spending more than I'm making.

I've been furloughed. I didn't like it. I'm sure you don't, or didn't. My solution was to go find another job and not look back. I invite you to do the same.

 

[two(2)%]

Just for the sake of arguement since I can bid open time, and can be reasonably assured of getting a certain number of days, how is it I'm living above my means? I'm really only living above my means if I'm spending more than I'm making.

I've been furloughed. I didn't like it. I'm sure you don't, or didn't. My solution was to go find another job and not look back. I invite you to do the same.

This Hartmann guy loves to pick fights with everyone including the Astar guys and his own pilot brothers. He's like that famous German WWII ace (AKA Erich Hartmann) who flies around shooting everyone down. Only the "real" ace prided himself on never losing a wingman. And I know he never shot his own men out of the sky like this ABX "ace" does every time he posts. Thanks for the invitation but I think we'll just aim our 88's and 50 cals. in your direction whenever we can. He's gotta be Ziebarth. Author, selfish contract circa late nineties.

 

[erichartmann]

This Hartmann guy loves to pick fights with everyone including the Astar guys and his own pilot brothers. He's like that famous German WWII ace (AKA Erich Hartmann) who flies around shooting everyone down. Only the "real" ace prided himself on never losing a wingman. And I know he never shot his own men out of the sky like this ABX "ace" does every time he posts. Thanks for the invitation but I think we'll just aim our 88's and 50 cals. in your direction whenever we can. He's gotta be Ziebarth. Author, selfish contract circa late nineties.

Aahh 2%. How apropo. So nice of you to clearly identify yourself as part of the whiners and carpers union. Would you care for some bread and cheese with your whines?

:uzi:

 

[penguin22]

Blah blah blah.

Hey its the Rhoidster! Mom forget to sign off her computer again, rhoid?
Run along now, before Mom comes home and finds you online again!

 

[inplaneview]

What's the latest on ANA flying? I've been away from the Hoot for a week and haven't seen or heard any recent news. Last I heard was that Japan domicile is dead, flying should start up in March with Miami crews , and this thing could grow significantly beyond the 2 or 3 airplane range.

 

[penguin22]

Last I heard was that Japan domicile is dead, flying should start up in March with Miami crews , and this thing could grow significantly beyond the 2 or 3 airplane range.

Those are still the current rumors. I’ll bet the March startup date slips some. I Think the company’s Japan domicile brainfart is dying on the vine. Like I said earlier, the lack of an Osaka domicile bid says this thing will be crewed with US based crews, at least initially, probably forever.

Today a new proffer came out for another 767 class. Eight 767 captains (all captains! Wilmington based!) Absolutely no truth to the rumor the class will be taught in Japanese.

 

[LarryinTN]

The class for ILN 767 Captain's makes me wonder if the ANA flying is going to be crewed from ILN?

 

[penguin22]

The class for ILN 767 Captain's makes me wonder if the ANA flying is going to be crewed from ILN?

In case anybody missed it, the latest hotline says it looks like it will be crewed out of ILN, and the crews won't be fenced. Should be good news for anybody who was scared of getting permantly sent over there.

What the hell, I might even bid it once, just for the adventure!

 

[xspud]

Yeah, I think the direction it's heading is probably the best way to crew it for both the company and the majority of crews.

Seems like we cleared that "fencing" hurdle in a hurry when we needed to, eh? Wasn't that the primary reason the MIA domicile was created?

Personally, I'm a bit disappointed. I was willing to commit to the Japan flying (even moving there), but I'd be too junior to guarantee holding a line of it. I suspect that a lot of senior people will try it out at least once. Still, I'm very glad we're getting it done, I view it as a very positive development for ABX and the entire pilot group.

 

[ABXbooger]

SPC briefing this Friday, hopefully some interesting stuff...

 

[LarryinTN]

I just heard that one of our Captains carried a couple of mechanics to LAX the other day to accept our first 767 from AAL. The Captain called Hete and Joe confirmed but wouldn't say how many of them we're getting. The Mechanics seemed to think that it was about 12 of them.

Meanwhile... Negotiations start again in Washington tomorrow.