ABX to list on NASDAQ

[Airbus300]

(Here is the retraction from the April 9th. online edition of the Cincinnati enquirer)........reporter error...


James Pilcher

ABX article included errors

A story in Thursday's Business section about ABX Air's request for listing on the Nasdaq stock exchange should have reported the company would supply 26 fewer planes to air cargo carrier DHL because of DHL's operations relocation from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport to Wilmington. In addition, the story should have reported that Astar Air Cargo's full 40-plane fleet is expected to move to Wilmington under contract to DHL.


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[LarryinTN]

Our DC8s start either two or four engines while still in the gate. If they only start two then the remaining two are started during taxi, not after push. Not sure why they'd push back, stop, then start more engines in the 70's.

 

[hvydriver]

LJ,

That's the first I've heard of that prob. I know when I'm in ILN, I usually push with #3 operating, and start the rest on push. That's our usual pushback scenario. By the time the tug is disconnected and moved, you should have all 4 running and ready to taxi. FWIW.

 

[LarryinTN]

I haven't seen the problem myself, just heard about it from others. Sounds like your normal procedure would avoid any delays so the incidents in question must have involved something out of the ordinary.

Our procedure for the DC8 is different. We start #3 and #2 in the gate off of the huffer cart before pushback. We then start #1 and #4 during taxi. If we're planning on a short taxi then we start #3, #4, #2, and #1 in the gate off of the huffer. On the DC9 we start either engine, or both engines, during pushback off the APU. I believe that the B767 always starts both engines during pushback. I don't think that they do a delayed start.

 

[UM#1]

Do you DC8 drivers need air (huffer) to be hooked up during engine shutdown to avoid tailpipe fires? or is this not an issue..curious

 

[Clipperskip]

The Pneumatic Air Cart is only used for engine starts on ABX's DC-8 60's series while at the gate as they do not have an APU found on many of the converted DC-8 70's series aircraft. Delayed engine starts utilize a "cross bleed start procedure" where engine pneumatic pressure from the operating engines is used to start engines #1 and #2. In the 13 years I flew the DC-8 at ABX I have never seen a tail pipe fire at engine shutdown. The Pratt JT-3's are reliable and easy to start but a bit on the "smokey" side, just ask the aircraft taxiing behind them! cough, cough...

 

[hvydriver]

UM,


No, you don't use a huffer on shutdown. For air to spin the turbine, you have to open the start valve for each engine. Never heard of a tailpipe fire problem in the 8 before.

 

[LarryinTN]

a bit on the "smokey" side, just ask the aircraft taxiing behind them! cough, cough...

Hey, those DC8's are old enough to smoke, ain't they?

 

[LarryinTN]

Do you DC8 drivers need air (huffer) to be hooked up during engine shutdown to avoid tailpipe fires? or is this not an issue..curious

Exactly how would the huffer cart be used to assist in engine shutdown? All it does is provide pnuematic pressure to the pnuematic system. You can't engage a starter while the engine is turning as that would destroy the starter so what are you proposing they would do with that pnuematic pressure?