AA's Pilots Screw its Furloughee's

[flyboyike]

All other Real pilots unions treat the furloughee's with respect....

Since when?

 

[Smarta$$]

Furloghed aa pilots have a seniority number at aa and are union members, for them to be excluded is a crime.

Go back before the deadline.

 

[OHGOON]

Go back before the deadline.

Not the point! Some cannot and will miss out... No earthly reason it should be that.

 

[Smarta$$]

Not the point! Some cannot and will miss out... No earthly reason it should be that.

Pilots are exceptionally greedy and self centered. This decision by the APA does not surprise me at all, it is what pilots do, especially the senior pilots that usually run and control unions and negotiations.

As for the person who started this post, I am certain that he COULD go back in time, but probably wants to stay where he is until the last second to make the most money he can, and allow more people to get hired at AA so that he can go back as high up the list as possible. He will say that he is just concerned with others that have training contracts bla bla bla, but we all know pilots well enough to know that he cares primarily about himself, just like nearly ALL of the rest of the pilots...

No dog in this fight, and barely care at all. Just know how pilots think and strategerize...

 

[matchthehatch]

While I agree that pilots should be able to continue to defer and collect some of the equity, those of us who are taking pretty damn significant risks by returning now, and not waiting until things are sorted out, should be rewarded for taking those risks.

 

[C-150ETOPS]

While I agree that pilots should be able to continue to defer and collect some of the equity, those of us who are taking pretty damn significant risks by returning now, and not waiting until things are sorted out, should be rewarded for taking those risks.

Sorry dude.

Back and collect or stay away and give it away.

 

[matchthehatch]

Sorry dude.

Back and collect or stay away and give it away.

In case it that was directed toward me, please reread my post dude. "...those of us who are taking pretty damn significant risks by returning now..."

I'm in the May 15th recall class, partially to ensure my inclusion in the ED.

 

[Turtle21]

Furloghed aa pilots have a seniority number at aa and are union members, for them to be excluded is a crime.

Yeah, sure we all think its a crime. Now what?

 

[Bringupthebird]

Turtle would be among your least loyal allies. He will surely recommend that you abandon APA for his highly effective and efficient "union" (which prefers disunity to relevance).

 

[Bringupthebird]

Real pilots unions treat the furloughee's with respect

Don't mention that to Turtle, whose union brags at what they have done for "their side" at the expense of west pilots still on furlough. And don't remind him how that same union assessed the entire group to pay the health insurance of a chosen few.

 

[Turtle21]

Don't mention that to Turtle, whose union brags at what they have done for "their side" at the expense of west pilots still on furlough. And don't remind him how that same union assessed the entire group to pay the health insurance of a chosen few.

The sooner you accept the fact that a union is driven by the majority and the minority is always left with whining about integrity, and some outdated story trying to counter "might makes right", the better off your ulcers will be.

Who cares what is "right", the majority answer that every time we vote. I get it, the minority have the right to scream and wear "integrity T-shirts". Ok. You are correct. Unions pay lip service to unity and integrity. You are correct. Now what? Do you think anything will change? There will always be a majority and a minority, and the scammers (I mean skimmers) on the top.

Now what?

 

[kwick]

The same APA guys that objected to removing age discrimination, based on "so-called safety reasons," and now are flying after age 60.

To continue to fly after reaching age 60, after professing that it is unsafe, is unconscionable. They should have their licenses revoked!

At least the ones that said they thought it was unsafe.

 

[Full of LUV]

Pilots eat their own. Doesn't matter, junior or senior. They all talk a good game, brotherhood, stand together, etc. Just ask a Delta or United retiree.

Retirees..... UAL/DAL made what turned out to be wildly unsustainable pension promises that eventually brought to reality in BK. How did the pilots throw them under the bus? The DAL pilots took like 50% pay cuts as well.... are you saying they should have taken 70% cuts so the old pension system could go forward?

 

[Flopgut]

The sooner you accept the fact that a union is driven by the majority and the minority is always left with whining about integrity, and some outdated story trying to counter "might makes right", the better off your ulcers will be.

Who cares what is "right", the majority answer that every time we vote. I get it, the minority have the right to scream and wear "integrity T-shirts". Ok. You are correct. Unions pay lip service to unity and integrity. You are correct. Now what? Do you think anything will change? There will always be a majority and a minority, and the scammers (I mean skimmers) on the top.

Now what?

I'm pretty sure you're about to find yourself in the minority. APA guy told me there is only one list they will go into SLI with you guys on, and it aint USAPA's

 

[Bringupthebird]

The sooner you accept the fact that a union is driven by the majority and the minority is always left with whining about integrity, and some outdated story trying to counter "might makes right", the better off your ulcers will be.

Who cares what is "right", the majority answer that every time we vote. I get it, the minority have the right to scream and wear "integrity T-shirts". Ok. You are correct. Unions pay lip service to unity and integrity. You are correct. Now what? Do you think anything will change? There will always be a majority and a minority, and the scammers (I mean skimmers) on the top.

Now what?

I think a 16 year old once tried to convince his friend that he could drive 85 all day long as long as he didn't get pulled over. Laws only apply to those who get caught, right?

Were you that 16 yr old?