AA1370 Tuesday Night...Wow

[runwayjockey]

Agoodexampleoftyping101?

More like drinking and typing....

 

[Metro752]

So this is what really happened, got the info off the APA website.

There was a junior EMB-190 FO from Airways on the jumpseat, and they were all discussing the possible merger between the two companies. The USA guy asked about what was unique to American, and the American Captain said well, when you are dealing with the help, don't hold back get what you want, when you need it. Right about that time one of the senior mama stews tried to hand the captain his can of Ensure, but in the process managed to spill it over the Captain, and the pedestal. Right then the TWA FO woke up, and since he actually had his radar on, noticed the weather ahead, and told the Captain.

In a fit of rage over the spilled Ensure the Captain, not wanting to look like a fool, grabbed the hand mic, and started giving the Denver controller the business. By the time they were around the weather, the Captain was winded, and was ready for his nap. So he canceled his little emergency, and off to sleep he went.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

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is thias captured on liveatc orsomething... sounds cringe worthy

 

[OPECJet]

So this is what really happened, got the info off the APA website.

There was a junior EMB-190 FO from Airways on the jumpseat, and they were all discussing the possible merger between the two companies. The USA guy asked about what was unique to American, and the American Captain said well, when you are dealing with the help, don't hold back get what you want, when you need it. Right about that time one of the senior mama stews tried to hand the captain his can of Ensure, but in the process managed to spill it over the Captain, and the pedestal. Right then the TWA FO woke up, and since he actually had his radar on, noticed the weather ahead, and told the Captain.

In a fit of rage over the spilled Ensure the Captain, not wanting to look like a fool, grabbed the hand mic, and started giving the Denver controller the business. By the time they were around the weather, the Captain was winded, and was ready for his nap. So he canceled his little emergency, and off to sleep he went.

Brilliant!!!! You forgot the part where the USAir FO took the thunderstorm to binding arbitration, didn't like the outcome, so formed his own new little thunderstorm on final for the parallel runway. That might be why the AA captain couldn't accept a turn in any other direction.

 

[pipejockey]

How about ATC doing it's friggin job! It's bad enough they can't move traffic on time on a cloudless day at your departure, enroute, and destination, but now they can't even approve a deviation for a cell without getting all nervous and jerky. Come on folks, you keep the blips from hitting! Simple as that. And with our modern day TA/RA systems, there is no way 2 aircraft will ever collide in this day and age. ATC needs to get it's act together and move the amount of traffic that needs to be moved, on time, every time!!! Has ATC received the memo that lets them know the industry is running about 15% less capacity than last year at this time?

Kudos to the AA Captain that let him have it!! If I were closer to retirement, I'd be the same way!!

 

[GuppyWN]

I agree with Pipe. I more or less inform ATC that I'm deviating rather than "requesting" it.

Gup

 

[cjdriver]

This was definitely more than just that flight. Years of BS piling up I assume. Is airline flying really that F'd up? Is American going through some hard times?

 

[DOVPILOT]

..you forget. We're talking about American here...remember ?


PHXFLYR

Watch out what you say they might own you soon, and then talk about an integration ( I hear the sound of a stapler, from staples, that was easy)

 

[Browntothebone]

We had two US Airways jumpseaters on the same flight the other day. One was East and the other was a West. I could tell that there was alot of tension between the two of them, so to lighten the mood and get some friendly chat going, I started off by asking them what they thought of the Nic award. Big mistake!

 

[2 Live]

We had two US Airways jumpseaters on the same flight the other day. One was East and the other was a West. I could tell that there was alot of tension between the two of them, so to lighten the mood and get some friendly chat going, I started off by asking them what they thought of the Nic award. Big mistake!

Did the shrink clear you to fly again? If you're the same cat I think you are, I seriously doubt it.

 

[CA1900]

And with our modern day TA/RA systems, there is no way 2 aircraft will ever collide in this day and age.

There are some people in Brazil who'd like a word with you about that.

 

[pipejockey]

There are some people in Brazil who'd like a word with you about that.

Well there is that pesky task of actually turning it on, I'm surprised we haven't gotten new procedures on that

 

[CA1900]

Well there is that pesky task of actually turning it on, I'm surprised we haven't gotten new procedures on that

Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what happened.

Nevermind this from the NTSB report:

"... When the airplane was about 30 miles north-northwest of BRS, at 402 pm, the transponder of N600XL was no longer being received by ATC radar... "


After the Brazil crash, an Airworthiness Directive was issued affecting the specific transponder/RMU installation that was in that Legacy.

From the AD: "This AD results from the transponder erroneously going into standby mode if the flightcrew takes longer than five seconds when using the rotary knob of the radio management unit to change the ATC code. We are issuing this AD to prevent the transponder of the COM unit from going into standby mode, which could increase the workload on the flightcrew and result in improper functioning of the traffic alert and collision avoidance system."


I've had the pleasure of flying behind lots of Honeywell equipment, and I've personally seen a lot of software bugs in their stuff.

But hey, go ahead and hang the crew if it makes you feel better.

 

[pipejockey]

All I know from the limited amount of knowledge I heard about it was that it wasn't on. Whether it was the crew or not, I'm just saying it has to be on. Simple as that! Not hanging anyone or anything!

 

[CA1900]

Ah, OK. The way you wrote it, you seemed to suggest they didn't turn it on, not that it wasn't on. Subtle difference in wording, but a dramatic difference in meaning.