AA to furlough more Jan. 31st......

[RJ_Driver]

That's the point...

 

[aa73]

Gee, Swede, I'm already gone and I'm not THAT pessimistic...

aa73--How close are you to the bottom? If they go the whole 450, the TWA seniority will be early Sept. '88 hires. I never expected it to go that far.

I talked to a friend on the nego comm and the only way they will go for pref bidding is if the union controls it(which is a must for any airline) and that it won't cost jobs. I think the A-plan is toast(replaced by a defined contribution plan) the tough thing is transitioning the guys about ready to retire.

If they sacrifice 2000 more jobs to save the A-plan there's going to be a whole bunch of returning furloughed guys looking for payback at the expense of retiree benefits...

Good luck.TC

TC, I am in the last 100 on the list right now, most likely the next round will come beginning of March.

I am all for pref bidding, but not until everyone is recalled. Everyone here seems to think that pref bidding doesn't require as many pilots... I hope your friend is right.

The A-plan is toast, period. Just a matter of when. I have a feeling it will come at the expense of 100-seaters going to Eagle - in other words, the senior APA guys will manage to hold on to the A-plan in exchange for scope.

It is a grim picture, but I hope it turns around some day.

Happy holidays,
aa73

 

[aa73]

The A-plan is toast, period. Just a matter of when. I have a feeling it will come at the expense of 100-seaters going to Eagle - in other words, the senior APA guys will manage to hold on to the A-plan in exchange for scope.

OK, speech clarification: what I meant to say was, they will hold on to the A-plan a little while longer in exchange for the 100-seaters going to Eagle, but the A-plan will still get canned eventually.

 

[350DRIVER]

350driver--I'm sure Bruce is still on the property. I would imagine he still is an -80 Capt. He was my sim partner during a 767 recurrent. Great guy.TC

Great and personable guy, sharp pilot as well. I am glad to hear that he is still on property. His p/a's were always somewhat comical, had flown on numerous flights that he was at the controls of when he was still on the 27 way back in the ice age. Never forget the one year where the F/a's did the famous "sick out" at Christmas and he was losing a tad bit of patience and wanted that plane to get to PIT asap and get pax to family.

He was a class act in every way.

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[FarginDooshbahg]

Get the facts...

Calls are going out now, my buddy just got his, a 1988 hire. Thank god all those 20 something year old wonders are still working there and keeping our sky's safe. Oh, wait, I think it was one of those who just about killed everyone in Denver last week. So much for experience counting in this world.

BigBadUninformedToker-
How could you be so wrong...guess what TWAAAA?

The Gent that you "think" was a 20 something year old was in fact an experienced older Gentleman that came with one of AA's purchases...

ALL that should really be beside the point, I have great empathy for that Gent, even though he came over with a buyout. But because you thoughtlessly "think" on line, you diminish your very own reputation as a Pilot who came with the equipment that AA bought. You are of the same ilk as the poor soul who "just about killed everyone in Denver" Should we all look into your former 'lines hiring and training policies and procedures?

Absolutely NOT, Brother Pilot.

Get the facts...

 

[FarginDooshbahg]

HEY>>>WHO STOLE MY IDENTITY????

Someone has been eating my porridge. And they ate it all up.

Whomever posted that message above is NOT the REAL FarginDooshbahg. Better keep a closer eye on my computer, eh?