AA recall rumors/gossip

[satpak77]

Just wondering, but I heard that

- AA called 300 guys and only 30 came back to work

- More guys older than 50 than younger. Possibly 10 guys max younger than 40. Many hitting 60+ in the ranks

 

[Mike man]

I heard from a crew...rumors of hiring off the street next spring/summer because of the low return rate.

I think they said the average age of AA is 50+ (53 pops in my head)
10% return rate for the recalls

 

[AceOnTheRiver]

Lots of rumors of used 777's and maybe 747's. Also heard they might increase recalls to 50 a month next year.

 

[airgator]

I thought there were a ton of guys coming over from Eagle? Is that not a done deal?

 

[spciii]

I'm surprised there are AA bubbas young enough to navigate the Interwebs . . .

 

[AvroGuy]

I thought there were a ton of guys coming over from Eagle? Is that not a done deal?

that is true

 

[Flyby1206]

I thought there were a ton of guys coming over from Eagle? Is that not a done deal?

~180 guys have decided to go to AA from AE, there are 254 more that can chose yes or no, but havent been given the option yet. After all the AA furloughees have been offered recall there are supposed to be 824 more AE guys coming over 1:1 with newhires off the street. This is my understanding of the situation, so someone correct me if I am wrong

 

[GOULET!]

How does reserve work at AA? Short call/long call? If so, how long is the callout for both.

 

[Crandal]

It will take AA about 2 years to go through all of the furloughed pilots plus all of the AE pilots that will decide to come over. I would not expect any new hiring from the street in the next 3-4 years.

Good luck

 

[i fly boxes]

It will take AA about 2 years to go through all of the furloughed pilots plus all of the AE pilots that will decide to come over. I would not expect any new hiring from the street in the next 3-4 years.

Good luck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ_R-G_i4Xk

 

[100 c.i.]

~180 guys have decided to go to AA from AE, there are 254 more that can chose yes or no, but havent been given the option yet. After all the AA furloughees have been offered recall there are supposed to be 824 more AE guys coming over 1:1 with newhires off the street. This is my understanding of the situation, so someone correct me if I am wrong

True, I was about 3 numbers to be recalled, but now 183 because of the Throw ups which have a very high fail rate according to a AA check pilot.

 

[AceOnTheRiver]

It will take AA about 2 years to go through all of the furloughed pilots plus all of the AE pilots that will decide to come over. I would not expect any new hiring from the street in the next 3-4 years.

Good luck

Not what I heard. But who knows if oil doesn't stabilize.

 

[Angus Khan]

Come to AA and be furlough fodder. Ahh, whatever, they're all that way.

 

[Draginass]

True, I was about 3 numbers to be recalled, but now 183 because of the Throw ups which have a very high fail rate according to a AA check pilot.

The AE flow-ups that were forced on AA by the arbitrators decision generally had a tough time in training, despite helpful, fair and honest instruction. A lot of those guys have very narrow experience (50 seat RJs at best) and no big airplane experience and were having trouble with even the MD-80 and 737 school (none have gone thru the 757/767 program which is much more difficult). Many had lots of additional training required. Failure rate is about 10% from what I hear, at least so far. That seems to be much higher than traditional off-the-street hiring, but off-the-streeters usually have more breadth of experience in a wider range of larger and more complex aircraft than commuter pilots.

But keep in mind that the sample size so far is fairly small, so statistically it's not definitive.

 

[JFReservist]

How old are the Eagle guys coming on property... And what happens if AMR actually sells Eagle?!?

Several of my AA friends have been have mentioned managements desire for a 100 seat jet (at mainline only, the friends assure me). Any thoughts?