A note from this FA to you.

[RegionalFA]

Regional FA,

Are you based in RIC with CHQ? You sound like someone I know.

Aceshigh

I also apparently sound like someone from STL and CMH.


Questions like that should be addressed in PM.

 

[100LL... Again!]

I'll gladly explain:

This job isn't very hard. Challenging, occasionally.

Yes, we must be alert. Yes, we must think ahead. I don't see why that is so difficult. Plenty of less than stellar pilots out there - most of them never have a real problem.

Once you've done the job for a year or two, what's the big deal.

I've had harder jobs - that's why I do this now. Easy.

 

[Air Biscuit]

You just don't get it do you? Before you begin comparing salaries, get your info straight.

According to your post "everybody else" is willing to work for Sh!t wages. Everyone except whom? Who do you work for? What incredibly different company do you work for that is sooo much better than "Everybody else"?????

I'm sorry if you didn't understand what everybody else meant. It means are you or anybody else part of the problem, meaning are you satisfied with your wages or will you have the sack to vote down a peice of sh!t when it falls in front of you. We all obviously know that the majority of Mesa and Chautauqua will be happy living off Ramen Noodles and Dinty Moore Beef Stew for quite some time trying to support the wife and kids. I'm sure that the majority of these pilots are misers who save every penny they find on the street and pack there meals for an entire 4 day trip, but love to fly so much that walking a picket line just wouldn't cut it. Don't you understand, until people wake up this profession will continue to decline. What I'm trying to explain isn't rocket science. I work for X-jet and I can assure you that if I don't see close to mainline wages my vote will be no. My vote was no for the last contract. If it means me losing my job I really don't give a f$#@. I've done this for long enough and if I have to go drive a truck and make the same money I will. Enough is enough. Unfortunately, I don't think that there is enough pilots at X-jet willing to fight as hard as I am, but I am confident that we will definately raise the bar to a level far above the rest.

 

[Ben Franklin]

Dear Pilots,

This is just a friendly little reminder about a thing called "mutual respect." Yeah, you remember me, the cute chick in the back. Remember, I'm here to work, too. Please respect that.

Dear F/A's,

I thought it was mutual and stop asking me to remember it, I was drunk so I can't. I remember something about working you and something about me being in back and I even remember saying "I'll respect you tomorrow" but it's all pretty unclear still.

Say hello to the Captain.



Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[MetroSheriff]

BEN Franklin strikes again.

That was great...


ROFLMAO!!!

 

[crashpad]

BRAVO, BF, BRAVO!

 

[OldManPilot]

Re: Re: A note from this FA to you.

Dear F/A's,

I thought it was mutual and stop asking me to remember it, I was drunk so I can't. I remember something about working you and something about me being in back and I even remember saying "I'll respect you tomorrow" but it's all pretty unclear still.

Say hello to the Captain.



Sincerely,

B. Franklin

I'll bet the male flight attendants remember it.... LOL Just Kidding!

 

[RegionalFA]

Re: Re: A note from this FA to you.

Dear F/A's,

I thought it was mutual and stop asking me to remember it, I was drunk so I can't. I remember something about working you and something about me being in back and I even remember saying "I'll respect you tomorrow" but it's all pretty unclear still.

Say hello to the Captain.



Sincerely,

B. Franklin

BF,

it's hard to forget the worst sex of your life. forgive us and let us learn from these mistakes.

FA

 

[Broke in CVG]

You weren't drafted... you applied for the job! Being a FA has all the disadvantages of our job, with very few of the advantages. I just don't understand why someone would want that job.... but you CHOOSE to be a FA, not a pilot.

You don't deserve to get dumped on, but you do have to understand there is a pecking order on board... Capt, FO, FA. You may not like it, but you have to respect it.

I had a FA tell me to get out of his galley, if I need something ask. Well I did, and very politely at that 15 min ago... so I got it myself. When he told me about the invisible line accross the galley that was his territory and that I wasn't allowed to go there. I told him that we were going to have a problem, because HIS galley was in MY airplane!

During initial training a few years back, a FA in training asked me how long our training was.... 4 weeks of ground and then 2 weeks in the sim. She said that their training was 4 weeks, so if she went an extra week she could be a pilot? Well, no I responded, I was a pilot before hand and also 4 + 1 is 5, not 6.

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

Unfortunately some of my peers can be real jerks sometimes. Luckily they are the extreme minority. On the other hand some of your F/A sisters/brothers can be a real pain in the ass as well.To those few F/A that are jerks: STFU, sit down and do your d@mn job and stop fricking complaining all the time! Contrary to popular belief it isn't your airplane and we aren't there just to drive you around. The customers count and aren't there just to piss you off. I don't care that your boyfriend is cheating on you or that you can't afford to eat dinner with the crew. Stop interrupting when the pilots are engaged in a pre departure checklist or procedure. Stop and listen for a second before you burst into the cockpit demanding galley water or whatever. Don't wait until 3 minutes to push to tell me that the seatbelt sign is burned out. Try to think outside the 3' circle immediately around your fatass. If you hate your job quit and go back to telemarketing or whatever it is you did before your cursed this airline with your meanspirited, whinyassed countenance. To the other 98% of the F/A: Good job guys and gals. You make it a pleasure to come to work.

Golf clap... Well put sir.

 

[urflyingme?!]

More power to ya!
BTW what IS the best way to go on a date with an FA?
But seriously.....what is the best way....

 

[RSRVWINDSURFR]

Okay, and, with autopilot and a co-pilot, the odds of you "accidently" killing a boatload of people are pretty slim, too.
____________________________________________________


Yeah, because fatigued pilots flying autopilot equipped airplanes have NEVER killed people before, have they?

 

[gordon24]

RegionalFA = another empty kitchen.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Re: Re: Re: A note from this FA to you.

I'll bet the male flight attendants remember it.... LOL Just Kidding!

Ben's originally comment was a classic...but Old Man stole your thunder.

You guys are good.

 

[sleepy]

Why didn't you tell the pilot in question what you wrote to all of us who had nothing to do with this whole incident?

Don't sugar-coat it, tell him how you really feel, then I might have some respect for you. But please don't come on here bitching about it to us, we don't care.

 

[RJPilott]

but you do have to understand there is a pecking order on board... Capt, FO, FA. You may not like it, but you have to respect it.

We had an Inflight manager tell a new hire FO that the pecking orderwas CA,FA,FO. Man, wish i was there for that... too funny.

 

[350DRIVER]

Don't sugar-coat it, tell him how you really feel, then I might have some respect for you. But please don't come on here bitching about it to us, we don't care.

Amen to that one. I thought the same and was a tad surprised when this whole thing was posted. I guess some mix emotions with the workplace though.


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ps>> we can't kill a boatload of people since we have autopilot to0 I guess that is why pilot training is almost the same as flight attendant training, no differences in the wash out rates either. (no sarcasm intended)

 

[RegionalFA]

You weren't drafted... you applied for the job! Being a FA has all the disadvantages of our job, with very few of the advantages. I just don't understand why someone would want that job.... but you CHOOSE to be a FA, not a pilot.

You don't deserve to get dumped on, but you do have to understand there is a pecking order on board... Capt, FO, FA. You may not like it, but you have to respect it.

I had a FA tell me to get out of his galley, if I need something ask. Well I did, and very politely at that 15 min ago... so I got it myself. When he told me about the invisible line accross the galley that was his territory and that I wasn't allowed to go there. I told him that we were going to have a problem, because HIS galley was in MY airplane!

During initial training a few years back, a FA in training asked me how long our training was.... 4 weeks of ground and then 2 weeks in the sim. She said that their training was 4 weeks, so if she went an extra week she could be a pilot? Well, no I responded, I was a pilot before hand and also 4 + 1 is 5, not 6.

just to point out... I wasn't complaining about the job. I wasn't even really meaning to complain about the specific incident, though, It ended up turning into that.

I love my job.

For the hundredth time. I love my job.

I just posted this because this is largely a pilots forum. I was hoping to point out an aspect of our daily life that you, as a pilot, could help improve. (but, as I've since been informed, many of you just "don't care." We wonder why pilots have a bad reputation). I'd never tell a pilot to get out of "my" part of the cabin - that's silly. I thank you every time you help me cross a seatbelt and I do my best to ask you every leg if you wanted anything from the galley; If I get distracted remind me when i'm finished with that or by all means, get it yourself. Do I behave this way because I have to? No. (So, please don't ask me to pay for that attitude. There are pilots out there with attitudes that are awful, too. There's one that's been known to tell FA's "this is my 18million dollar aircraft and you'll do what I say" in their initial meeting. Yeah, okay, but does it have to said like that? Give me a break).

My final response: I didn't write this looking for kudos for my job. I didn't write it wanting sympathy for what I do. I wrote this in hopes that pilots would just THINK before the next time they said something that really wasn't what needed said. If you really think the FA is that unimportant to safety - fine, but don't say it to our face just to make us feel insignificant.

See how quick everyone was to jump when I said "chances of you killing anyone are also slim." Didn't like to be underestimated did they? Neither does anyone else.

 

[PacoPollo]

There's one that's been known to tell FA's "this is my 18million dollar aircraft and you'll do what I say" in their initial meeting. Yeah, okay, but does it have to said like that? Give me a break).



....I wonder how his coffee or drink taste after he gets one from the F/A....

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

RegionalFA = another empty kitchen.

LMAO

 

[100LL... Again!]

"this is my 18 million $ airplane..."

TOOL.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Why the hell are you bitching at us? Sheesh. Anyone else glad you don't fly with this mouthy ho?

 

[350DRIVER]

Why the hell are you bitching at us? Sheesh. Anyone else glad you don't fly with this mouthy ho?

Could also be that time of thy month for this "special" person....


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[urflyingme?!]

maybe aunt flow is in town?

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

The ol' red river reaching it's high water mark...

 

[skootertrash]

Hon, you are a important part of the crew however 95% of your job is peanuts and coke.

You want respect, go to flight school.

 

[piav8r]

You question the importance of a pilot's job when you put yourself on the same level as a pilot. You wont find one person on this board that will agree with you on that front.

 

[RegionalFA]

You question the importance of a pilot's job when you put yourself on the same level as a pilot. You wont find one person on this board that will agree with you on that front.

when did I do that? saying that I need sleep, too?

 

[RegionalFA]

Hon, you are a important part of the crew however 95% of your job is peanuts and coke.

You want respect, go to flight school.

peanuts? when was the last time you flew commercially?
I'm in school. But not to be a pilot. I happen to have other ambitions. But, thank you. In spite of the average pilot mentality, there are OTHER jobs out there worthy of respect.

95% of my time is spent on pretzels and coke. That's the easy time on the job. That's the part of the job when I don't have to care. It's also the least important percentage of the time. On a good day, the hardest part of my day is getting the woman in the bulkhead to give up her purse for takeoff and landing. On a good day. But, does that mean that I should be able to be required to show up for work after 4 hours of sleep?




PS. this isn't about saying pilots aren't important. If you read everything I say, I even said later, I made one statement doubting the "safety importance" of your job and voila, instant outrage. And yet, i'm the one that is outrageously "emotional" when the same thing is done to me. I was trying to make a point. Everyone knows how hard you work and how important your job is. It's a given. I don't mean to begrudge you that. The plane doesn't fly itself (if it would, we all know that management would be happy to rid themselves of the "costs" of pilots)... but let's be honest, you don't ask me for newspapers to read because your job is 100% high stress all the time.

This was NOTHING to do with how important a pilots job is. Never will be to me.

kthanks.


I'm leaving now, it's time for bed, I have to work. I am not going to say any more on this subject. You kids have fun berating me. This was the last I care to say on the subject.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah....
aren't there any F/A message boards for them to whine to each other?