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HEY ALPA raise my dues one penny and I'll do my best to make sure you are history...I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way
 
I'm still waiting for those normal 'alpa cheerleaders' to chime in; you know PCL, that 'PFT wanker' or REZ. Are you guys going to jump in here and defend that 'corrupt, useless' organization that we are stuck with, called 'alpa national.'

Were are you alpa 'cheerleaders'??? "Buhler, Buhler...."

Again, really, really SAD.

PD
 
The airlines that shutdown were the smallest portion of the dues lost. The largest portion, USAirways, was caused largely by Prater, Mr. politics before policy himself. He didn't operate in a vacumn either, much of the EC was to blame.

Send the bill to Prater, then get rid of him. So to speak. All you ALPA members better get on the phone to whoever represents you and make a hell of alot of noise.

One things for sure, this independent union movement could not have asked for a better ALPA president than JP.
 
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Send the bill to Prater, then get rid of him. So to speak. All you ALPA members better get on the phone to whoever represents you and make a hell of alot of noise.

The only reasonable sounding statement on this entire thread. Everyone else is chiming in like ALPA is some faceless dark force entity.
 
I agree that it's crappy for ALPA to tap the 401k.

The reason they are doing this instead of just raising the direct dues is that they think pilots won't notice. It's a "back door" increase. Why not go for an open dues increase? This comes across as greedy and sneaky. Again very crappy.

If ALPA intends to do business this way, they may find themselves in an even more tenuous situation then they already are.
 
Here is a list of everyone at ALPA who makes over $200k from 2006. Found at www.unionfacts.org

Air Line Pilots (ALPA)
National Headquarters Officers & Employees

Name Title Salary Benefits
& Other Total
Compensation
Duane Woerth President $ 348,345 $ 137,066 $ 485,411
Jalmer Johnson General Manager $ 391,742 $ 3,712 $ 395,454
Jonathan Cohen Chief Counsel/dir Legal $ 377,743 $ 4,898 $ 382,641
Bruce York Director, Representation $ 352,122 $ 27,464 $ 379,586
Paul Hallisay Director, Gov't Affairs $ 322,343 $ 8,305 $ 330,648
Kevin Barnhurst Director, Finance $ 309,347 $ 11,866 $ 321,213
William Roberts Asst Dir, Representation $ 296,480 $ 15,608 $ 312,088
Don Skiados Director, Communications $ 302,978 $ 7,476 $ 310,454
Jim Johnson Sr Managing Attorney $ 285,685 $ 13,223 $ 298,908
Jeffrey Small Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 238,305 $ 44,555 $ 282,860
Keith Hagy Director, E&as $ 272,853 $ 4,024 $ 276,877
Liz Koby Sr Managing Attorney $ 263,999 $ 12,064 $ 276,063
Dennis Dolan First Vice-president $ 0 $ 273,875 $ 273,875
Dave Vance Director, R&i $ 267,768 $ 3,982 $ 271,750
Seth Rosen Director, Ipsc $ 229,472 $ 36,888 $ 266,360
Jim Wilson Asst Dir, Representation $ 253,410 $ 7,846 $ 261,256
Bob Christy Manager, Econ & Financial $ 230,553 $ 23,262 $ 253,815
Ana Mcahron-schulz Dir, Econ & Fin Anal $ 230,572 $ 18,825 $ 249,397
Patrick Brennaman Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 229,600 $ 8,658 $ 238,258
Bob Lipsey Pension Inv Coordinator $ 234,656 $ 54 $ 234,710
Robert Nichols Sr Contr Admin/mec Coord $ 227,335 $ 4,446 $ 231,781
Russ Bailey Sr. Attorney $ 227,304 $ 3,038 $ 230,342
Marcus Migliore Managing Attorney $ 219,650 $ 4,883 $ 224,533
Betty Ginsburg Managing Attorney $ 219,088 $ 2,997 $ 222,085
Clay Warner Managing Attorney $ 219,733 $ 1,896 $ 221,629
Russell Woody Sr Benefits Attorney, R&i $ 208,478 $ 11,905 $ 220,383
Charlie Murphy Director, It & Services $ 213,633 $ 3,744 $ 217,377
Stephen Nagrotsky Sr Contract Administrator $ 207,006 $ 5,302 $ 212,308
Art Luby Asst Dir, Representation $ 201,536 $ 8,235 $ 209,771
Richard Domholt Sr Contract Administrator $ 199,861 $ 6,489 $ 206,350
 
I don't support Dues from the 401k.

If it is to happen then National needs to take a paycut.

In addition, 401k dues needs to be addressed at the 2008BOD.
 
Dear God.

Sometimes I'm an ALPA cheerleader, but this is ridiculous. I asked the question point blank at a recent union event if AAA leaving would open up a financial black hole and our MEC chairman said it wasn't a big deal.

I love the idea of one national pilot union. Just not so much this one at the moment.
 
Got anything accurate?

Wow! What a witty, yet informative comeback!

With how quickly some of you ALPA supporters have jumped on me, it's no wonder a lot of pilots are getting a bad taste in their mouths for ALPA. I'm no ALPA insider, and no veteran here, but as a line pilot I can describe how this looks from my position. And it looks bad.

Now if all of you want to just defend and ignore, go for it. But as a lowly line pilot, I thought I'd share my opinion of the issue. Take it for what it's worth.
 
Isn't this "tax" a bit regressive? I mean, it penalizes the pilots without a regular pension plan but doesn't touch the ones with. I suspect that the ones with a pension are probably at the higher end of pilot pay scales.
 

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