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I dont see the problem, I was to pay 6 dollars for fuel, I would expect something in return.

And yes Cirrus pilots are douch bags.
 
siucavflight said:
I dont see the problem, I was to pay 6 dollars for fuel, I would expect something in return.

And yes Cirrus pilots are douch bags.

yeah because that was my point...:rolleyes:
 
Then what is your point? I have used a crew car many times for business related travel, just dont see the big deal.
 
And on top of it I bet they did not buy any gas either
 
pilotyip said:
And on top of it I bet they did not buy any gas either
Those bastards!
 
siucavflight said:
Those bastards!

Let's kill them and be done with it. :nuts:



(Then pee in their Cirrus.)
 
Say Again Over said:
Apparently a lot of you don't understand the position of a corporate or charter pilot, the car in my opinion is for the flight crew to go grab a bite, it isn't for the aircraft owner to use because he's too f-- lazy or cheap to rent a car.


Well, you can have that opinion, and obviously you do. but, remember opinions are like a$$holes....... And at the end of the day, you opinion really counts for less than nothing at all (if that's possible) The car does not belong to you. the car belongs to the FBO, for serving thier customers as they see fit. It they think it is the sole domain of charter and corporae pilots, then it is. If they think that it is for the convenience of any customer that arrives in a plane, regardless of size, then it is. You can attempt to assert your opinion of what it should be, but you're wrong, and not a little infantile. There is no national ALPA courtesy car commitee, there are no courtesy car guidelines. the rules are made up by the guy who owns the car, and if you don't like his rules, well, all I can say is grow up.
 
A Squared said:
There is no national ALPA courtesy car commitee, there are no courtesy car guidelines. the rules are made up by the guy who owns the car, and if you don't like his rules, well, all I can say is grow up.
Yeah, what he said.
 
A Squared said:
There is no national ALPA courtesy car commitee, there are no courtesy car guidelines. the rules are made up by the guy who owns the car, and if you don't like his rules, well, all I can say is grow up.
If there was an ALPA courtesy car commitee do you think that I could be president of it?
 
skygirl1968 said:
like an episode of Seinfeld?
Say you go to work today and nothing happens, that could be an episode.
 
You guys are getting mad at the wrong people. There are assholes who lack mannors everywhere and you cannot change basic human nature

You should go up to the manager of the FBO and remind him of who is really paying the bills (it is not Cirrus owners). Corporate pilots who have a choice in which FBO to use. Next time, perhaps you will chose to go down the road.

Case in point, Atlantic in SNA takes a copy of your CC and comps you 1 hour. Anything beyond that and there is a charge. If they are going to give you a courtesy, they expect the same from you.

As another courtesy, if I see a couple of crews looking rather hungery in the waiting area I always ask if they would like to join us.

If you are on business and need more than a lunch wagon, go rent a car. The world is full cheap assholes. We do not need one more when we are just trying to get lunch.
 
G100driver said:
You guys are getting mad at the wrong people. There are assholes who lack mannors everywhere and you cannot change basic human nature

You should go up to the manager of the FBO and remind him of who is really paying the bills (it is not Cirrus owners). Corporate pilots who have a choice in which FBO to use. Next time, perhaps you will chose to go down the road.

Case in point, Atlantic in SNA takes a copy of your CC and comps you 1 hour. Anything beyond that and there is a charge. If they are going to give you a courtesy, they expect the same from you.

As another courtesy, if I see a couple of crews looking rather hungery in the waiting area I always ask if they would like to join us.

If you are on business and need more than a lunch wagon, go rent a car. The world is full cheap assholes. We do not need one more when we are just trying to get lunch.

At last... a posting of sanity on an otherwise insane thread...
 
G100driver said:
There are **************************************** who lack mannors everywhere and you cannot change basic human nature

Yeah, and if you go up to the FBO owner and start telling him who he can and cannot loan his car to, and precisely what hte purpose of his car is, you have just become one of those **************************************** with no manners.


Sorry, there is absolutely no sane rationalization for going up to someone and telling them who they can loan thier car to. The idea that somhow a car belonging to someone else should be reserved strictly for the use of ....XXXX (jet pilots, corporate pilots, pilots of planes that go over 200 mph, pilots who get paid....whatever. It all boils down to telling someone else "that's *my* car, it's only for *my* use and those who I say". Which is arrogant in the extreme when that someone is the person who owns the car, and you don't.
 
A Squared said:
Yeah, and if you go up to the FBO owner and start telling him who he can and cannot loan his car to, and precisely what hte purpose of his car is, you have just become one of those **************************************** with no manners.


Sorry, there is absolutely no sane rationalization for going up to someone and telling them who they can loan thier car to. The idea that somhow a car belonging to someone else should be reserved strictly for the use of ....XXXX (jet pilots, corporate pilots, pilots of planes that go over 200 mph, pilots who get paid....whatever. It all boils down to telling someone else "that's *my* car, it's only for *my* use and those who I say". Which is arrogant in the extreme when that someone is the person who owns the car, and you don't.

First comed, first served. This thread is almost as dumb as corporate pilots who want me to cancel in the air, because for some reason a single engine turbo-prop aint got no right to an IFR clearance all the way to the surface of a non-towered field.
 
What is arrogant is someone who parks an airplane, pays for no sevices, buys no fuel and expects to put on the front line while getting the courtesy car.

Notice how I suggested time limits, encourage sharing ect.

I am not going to demand anything from an FBO owner/manager. I am mearly going to make suggestions and take my dollars to those places of business that provide the best customer service.

I also think that this thread started with guys taking the courtesy car for the entire day. Not exactly courteous, now is it?
 
G100driver said:
What is arrogant is someone who parks an airplane, pays for no sevices, buys no fuel and expects to put on the front line while getting the courtesy car. I also think that this thread started with guys taking the courtesy car for the entire day. Not exactly courteous, now is it?


Uhhh, now you're just making $hit up. Unless you were there, and I see no indication that you were, you don't know what the guy did or did not buy there. And unless I missed a post, you completely pulled the crap about being "put on the front line" out of your a$$ (when you think about it, where esle would you pull crap from?) And nobody said anything about the whole day, it was "a few hours"Look, you're so busy throwing your little hissy fit, that you're just not getting it. Let me go through it one step at a time:

1) The car belongs to the FBO

2) The FBO loaned that car to one of it's customers on terms that were obviously acceptable to the FBO.

3) That transaction did not involve you, and it's none of your business.

It is that simple. You don't own the car. The FBO does. The FBO can use it how they see fit.

What part of that don't you grasp?
 
A Squared said:
Uhhh, now you're just making $hit up. Unless you were there, and I see no indication that you were, you don't know what the guy did or did not buy there. And unless I missed a post, you completely pulled the crap about being "put on the front line" out of your a$$ (when you think about it, where esle would you pull crap from?) And nobody said anything about the whole day, it was "a few hours"Look, you're so busy throwing your little hissy fit, that you're just not getting it. Let me go through it one step at a time:

1) The car belongs to the FBO

2) The FBO loaned that car to one of it's customers on terms that were obviously acceptable to the FBO.

3) That transaction did not involve you, and it's none of your business.

It is that simple. You don't own the car. The FBO does. The FBO can use it how they see fit.

What part of that don't you grasp?

I grasp it all, sweetpea.

I am just making the point that if FBO's want to cater to Cirus' (and that is their right) then I can take my ramp fees and fuel purchases elsewhere. That is the point that I am making. It is all about choices.

As for the front line stuff, it was not in this case but we have all seen the type. I worked line service for several years and saw the worst offenders were often the guys who purchased nothing and expected everything.

Did I hit too close to home for you or something? Shees. I think that the long hours of daylight are getting to you. :) Relax my friend.

All that I am asking is that when someone uses the COURTESY CAR that they are courteous. Taking a crew car for hours hardly fits the bill.
 

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