A Call To Family Airlines - Scam Warning Warning

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WARNING WARNING

I called this family airlines phone number - to see if they are a scam.

This lady answers - seems like she is at home or something

- So I asked if they were hiring pilots, she says "Just fill the application online" I said "well It costs $50.00 " She goes - yeah". So i went ahead an asked her about the company she says " I have no information about it" - I said: " Well looking at your site here, looks like a scam website" Her response " Well, I have no information about that either" - you have no information about your company and your scam looking site either? I responded.

THAT WAS THE END OF THE CALL.
THAT PLACE IS A SCAM AND .. THEY ARE TRYING TO SCREW PEOPLE IN NEED OF JOBS ... DO NOT APPLY THERE OR PAY THE $50.00 FEE
JUST LOOK AT THEIR SITE
www.familyairlines.com and if you want more prove call them and you will see.
 

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Looks like Pocono Pilot lost $50.
 

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file a complaint

There are enough people that pass through here to help with this issue. Read on and see what I am thinking.
It really sounds and seems like a scam. Look at how many pilots could submit $50.00 and what this "company could make. If someone were to use paypal then they would receive $$ in a flash.
I noticed that they have an address to send in a check. Well, that is mail fraud for starters. If enough of us file a complaint with the USPS then they'll look into it. Visit http://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/forms/MailFraudComplaint.aspx
and file out the form.
Hey, the airline web site claims to be receiving 500 resumes a week. That's $25,000 a week and $100K for a month. That's pure BS to prey on a pilot who is trying to make $$ to pay the bills and feed the family.
For once let's forget who ya work for and band together like the fraternity this industry can be.

Update: I sent in my complaint and requested they look into this company.:uzi: if it fits then let them go down. If not, then best of luck to them.

2nd update: Research what the public is saying about this company and track their federal process here:
http://www.regulations.gov/search/index.jsp
just type in their name and have at it.
 
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Wow. Another Family thread.

Perhaps it's warranted... for others edification.
 

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Anyone that sends these crooks money is too stupid to be out in public unsupervised, and certainly too stupid to hold a pilots license.
 

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When I did a search for the address listend on Family Airlines website, it displayed a corporation called Nevada Only, LLC. All of the executive officers are named Ralph Vitello, and their financial section says a capital amount of $1000.
http://nevadaonly.com/contact_us.php?osCsid=a9d77a64debc294edb3ba85a9459bcb4

https://esos.state.nv.us/SoSService....aspx?lx8nvq=BLSUx%2b6HMFos%2b5LIYVm76g%3d%3d

Here's an ad they have on Craigslist:
http://imperial.craigslist.org/lgs/962661129.html


Another page claims that a Farmers Insurance branch is located at that address.

I live in Las Vegas, so I'm going to drive by the address they have listed on their website tomorrow and see what kind of operation is at this location.

Family Airlines Incorporated
6135 S. Rainbow Blvd, Ste 100
Las Vegas, NV 89118-3260
 
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PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ...

go to the website. Click on About Us. Then click on the CEO's link, Barry Michaels.

Ohmagod, been laughing for 15 minutes. Soak it all in. Especially his bio (he's an ex-felon running for Congress). And the picture of him with his daughters. I think at least one is a daughter.

There's fun for the whole family on this one. Including many grievous spelling and grammatical errors for the fi.com middle school nazis to sink their teeth into.
 

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Here is the info for the domain name registry. Looks like it's registered to Nevada Only, LLC. It lists Barry Michaels (the CEO) as the administrative contact.


Registrant:
Nevada Only, LLC.
6135 Sv Rainbow Blvd, Suite 100
Las Vegas, Nevada 89118
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: FAMILYAIRLINES.COM
Created on: 24-Jun-03
Expires on: 24-Jun-09
Last Updated on: 28-Nov-07

Administrative Contact:
Michaels, Barry nevadaonly@yahoo.com
Nevada Only, LLC.
6135 Sv Rainbow Blvd, Suite 100
Las Vegas, Nevada 89118
United States
7024150905 Fax --

Technical Contact:
Michaels, Barry nevadaonly@yahoo.com
Nevada Only, LLC.
6135 Sv Rainbow Blvd, Suite 100
Las Vegas, Nevada 89118
United States
7024150905 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS43.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS44.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
 

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It looks like this guy and his wife are career con artists. They have run multiple cons before:

The Securities and Exchange Commission ("Commission")
announced that the United States District Court for the Central
District of California ordered a permanent injunction,
disgorgement of $363,306.44 and civil penalties against Myron
Barry Michaels (aka Barry Michaels) and Holly S. Michaels on June
19, 1996. The order issued by Judge Lourdes G. Baird found that
the husband and wife couple, residents in Las Vegas, Nevada,
participated in the fraudulent offering of $5 million of
unregistered stock of a discount start-up airline, Family
Airlines, Inc. ("Family") in 1992 and 1993, before they were
ousted from the airline by a group of Family investors.

Specifically, the Court found that the Michaelses misused
funds and made misrepresentations and/or omissions of material
facts to investors in connection with the offer and sale of
unregistered Family stock, both orally and in Family's Private
Placement Memorandum. The misrepresentations concerned: (1) the
use of investor proceeds; (2) Family's financial condition; (3)
the association of certain individuals with Family; (4) the
likelihood of Department of Transportation ("DOT") and Federal
Aviation Administration ("FAA") certification; and (5) the nature
and status of two financial commitments in the amount $25-30
million. The Michaelses fraudulently used investor money to fund
a lavish lifestyle that included a $50,000 down payment on their
home, an exclusive country club membership, lease payments on
"his" and "hers" Mercedes Benz automobiles, payment of a personal
debt of $20,000, and payments to themselves of $246,184.15.

The Court also found that in connection with applying to the
DOT/FAA for Family flight certification, the Michaelses lied to
the DOT and FAA about numerous civil lawsuits and judgments
against them. The Commission presented the Court with evidence
that at least 20 civil lawsuits had been filed in Los Angeles
County alone against the Michaelses for engaging in similar
investment dealings. The Commission also presented evidence that
the California Department of Corporations issued a Desist and
Refrain Order against Barry Michaels in 1983 for engaging in
similar fraudulent conduct relating to a cosmetics company.
 
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Guys, do a little research. This has been covered over and over on this site with multiple threads, already. Enough.
 

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Good info., Daytona.

It's clear these guys are running one heck of a scam. I bet his running for congress is actually a ploy to legitimize his scam and make him seem more honest, especially with his criminal past.
 

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Director of Flt ops is open and available...what was that number again. Ill bet it costs $100 bucks to apply for that one.
Check it out Dr. Phil is moonlighting at Family while running for Congress.
http://www.michaelsforcongress.com/
 
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Guys, do a little research. This has been covered over and over on this site with multiple threads, already. Enough.

Info I haven't heard yet. Don't like it, don't read it. Easy as that.
 

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Help out a stop to it!

If you guys can write about it here then take the time to write the agencies that can do something.

I just wrote the Inspector General's Office within the DOT to further investigate Family Airlines. They even have regional phone numbers you can call if ya don't feel like writing.

Let's put a stop to this kind of crap!!!!:uzi:
 

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Guys, do a little research. This has been covered over and over on this site with multiple threads, already. Enough.

I disagree. This is all good info being posted. Worth the timeif it saves even just one or two folks from losing 50 bucks.

Seems like the Nevada Attorney General's Office might also be interested in this one. Really want to go for the jugular call the IRS...
 

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PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ...

go to the website. Click on About Us. Then click on the CEO's link, Barry Michaels.
Priceless!

My favorite part:

Being convicted does not necessarily mean being guilty but long ago I decided I couldn’t win this battle so I “productively” served my time. Looking back I can honestly say; "I believe this sentence was payback time for prior business practices that were not always above board."
Yeah... I'm gonna send that guy $50. I'm sure he's completely reformed. :laugh:
 

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"Being convicted does not necessarily mean being guilty but long ago I decided I couldn’t win this battle so I “productively” served my time. Looking back I can honestly say; "I believe this sentence was payback time for prior business practices that were not always above board."

Holly Crap, how is this guy not the CEO of a current major airline? He fits right in.
 

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Priceless!

My favorite part:

Yeah... I'm gonna send that guy $50. I'm sure he's completely reformed. :laugh:
I told you!

I'm still laughing.
 

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How can I get my fifty bucks back...
 
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