757 Lands on Taxiway at EWR & Pilots Bolt

[radar_contact]

How did we get here, already?

I'll bet they got that sinking feeling when they went to taxi clear of the "runway".....

 

[jbvt]

Even better than that is the ILS 11 circle 29...stay over the Runway 4 at 1000' .... they call your base, chop and drop, and it looks more like a 172 pattern than a jet. You better be configured over the numbers or you will never make it.

whose not configured over the #'s

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Who cares, no blood no foul. It's not like this is the first time its ever happened. US Air (737) landed on the taxiway in DTW a few years back.

Yeah...and a week after the CAL BK and pilot strike in 1983, a scab crew on a CAL DC-9 landed on a taxiway in DEN....with frank lorenzo aboard.

Tejas

 

[zonker]

Glad someone mentioned that. I was wondering if it was just me that didn't see the reasoning behind that comment. In fact, if it's not lighted, how did he even see it to land on it?

I suppose that will come out later. They were confused from the beginning, obviously.

There are many factors that lead to something like this and the lack of edge lighting on the taxiway is just one of them.

 

[Fearless Tower]

Who cares, no blood no foul. It's not like this is the first time its ever happened. US Air (737) landed on the taxiway in DTW a few years back.

Happens at SEA on a regular basis.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

whose not configured over the #'s

Sorry, should have said over the Runway 4 (downwind) numbers for landing on 11.

 

[TNPILOT]

Sorry, should have said over the Runway 4 (downwind) numbers for landing on 11.

Errr you probably meant configured over the 4 #'s for the left downwind for 29.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Sounds like these guys were pretty darn good - landing a 757 on a 70' wide taxiway.

It's called: "Using your superior piloting abilities to make up for a total lack of situational awareness."

Personally, I'm impressed.

Agreed. That's the exact philosophy that has kept aviation going for over a thousand years.

 

[IAHERJ]

I've heard from some good sources that this particular captain had just completed IOE on the 757/767. The FO is on probation and I'm not sure who was flying that leg. I'll refrain from making any judgement calls as I'd do if this happened to any of your airlines. I can't imagine what was going through these two guy's minds on the taxi in.

I've done the approach in question at night in a 737 and in the ERJ and can tell you that it is challenging but fun. There are many variables that should be looked into regarding this incident or whatever it is being described as. Newark really needs to take a look at the taxiway light issue as I've said for years. Not trying to make excuses for these guys but i'm sure the NY Times would love to hear about EWR being one of very few major airports without taxiway edge lights.

Okay guys, you can go back to bashing CAL and these pilots now!!

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I've heard from some good sources that this particular captain had just completed IOE on the 757/767. The FO is on probation and I'm not sure who was flying that leg. I'll refrain from making any judgement calls as I'd do if this happened to any of your airlines. I can't imagine what was going through these two guy's minds on the taxi in.

.....crawling back into mom's womb?

 

[minrest]

Who says that the pilots didn't report it? What's the source? I can't believe that so many pilots bite on this article from undisclosed sources. What a bunch of crap.

 

[xjlifer]

Agreed. That's the exact philosophy that has kept aviation going for over a thousand years.

Man I thought it was like a hundred....you can learn a lot here at Flight Info

 

[MRYFLYER]

I've heard from some good sources that this particular captain had just completed IOE on the 757/767. The FO is on probation and I'm not sure who was flying that leg.

So did the airplane that the Captain come off of land on taxiways and not go to EWR? It is the largest CO hub correct? You would think he might have been there before, even when the wind was blowing. Also, if I remember correctly you guys don't have any steam gauge airplanes so it should not have been a glass issue. For the F/O, probation or not you don't allow the guy to land on a taxiway. I bet that was covered in the interview at some point perhaps.

Hope the investigation goes in their favor but when you are sitting behind the yoke when the airplane lands on a taxiway it really makes it for ALPA saftey to defend. Good thing you guys got Predator in office.

Was the Captain close to 60 by chance? Another case for not raising the age.

 

[IAHERJ]

Well, MRY flyer, let's see.

1. No, Ewr is not our largest hub. IAH is.

2. I know people who have flown for CAL for 20 years who have never done that particular circle to 29 in the dark. In fact, most pilots haven't done that one.

3. Yes, we do still have steam guage aircraft here. We have over 30 737-300's.

Thanks for your criticism though. Wish we could all have your intellect and great insight into aviation. Have a great career.

IAHERJ

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

IAHERJ
His 'career' is wayyyy done. You can read the bitterness in every post...

 

[Captain X]

I've been flying out of EWR for almost three years, and never. Very uncommon. 22L circle 29 happens a bit more often.

Me too. Six years flying in to EWR and only circled to 29 once.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Just to throw it out there:

The captain was not a scab and the FO was hired pre 9/11/01.

How it happened???? Beyond me?

It is sad that you actually have to make that clarification

 

[MRYFLYER]

1. No, Ewr is not our largest hub. IAH is.

You will notice I asked the question if IAH is you largest hub. Did not know if it was or not.

2. I know people who have flown for CAL for 20 years who have never done that particular circle to 29 in the dark. In fact, most pilots haven't done that one.

Sounds like a good simulator scenario for a PC. "OK boys you are going to have to land at an airport we serve. If you could make it a runway that would be great."

3. Yes, we do still have steam guage aircraft here. We have over 30 737-300's.

Oh I forgot you are a newbie to the airline world. You are one of those guys that does not know what "round dials" refer to. You think a 300 is an outdated design, that in itself is hilarious. Round dial 300's are different than real round dial steam powered VOR/DME airplanes of yore. The 300's all have FMS's, autoflight with ATS and Flight directors correct? The 300 MCP is similar to the 757. Of course if all else fails the pilot could be a pilot and manipulate the airplane via a series of control inputs from the Yoke and (don't let me scare you here with this) VISUALY acquire the runway and (gasp) land. Are you sure this Captains name is not listed in a publication that might be SCatterd ABout? Also what was up with the F/O?

 

[Mr Wu]

Who says that the pilots didn't report it? What's the source? I can't believe that so many pilots bite on this article from undisclosed sources. What a bunch of crap.

I'm with you on this one. No injuries, no damage, I believe I would file the ASAP and NASA first and then call the company (Maybe not in that order) before I go and tell the tower anything on a recorded freq.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Man I thought it was like a hundred....you can learn a lot here at Flight Info

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