737 Type Preps

[Fox2]

I know there was a recent discussion about Hire Power vs. K&C concerning 737 Type Rating. But can anyone comment on Premair in Seattle? Goods and Others?
Also, if the price is competitive (which it is), is there any inherent risk or advantage to getting the 3/4/5 Basic over the 200 rating?
Thanks.

 

[tiktak]

howdy
A 200 is so cheap because hardly anybody uses any more this type.
a 3/4/5 there are still plenty around, but most operators fly mixed fleets with some NG models.
If you look for advice get a 737NG rating.
Hope that helps.

 

[ivauir]

Like everything else ... it depends
- why you want the type
- how price sensitive you are
- how worried you are about the SWA training
- what your timetable is

If you want the type to interview with SWA then it doesn't matter what model of 737 you get your type in (it doesn't effect hiring)

Being trained by someone who KNOWS SWA and will put you on the right track is nice. I've heard Higher Power will do this, but I consider this a luxury, if you can save big bucks and still meet FAA standards at the end then go for it. The important thing is getting the training and the piece of paper to prove it. If you learn the SWA flows then your time in Dallas will be easier - but it is not going to effect weather you get the job.
IMHO getting it in the two is fine - SWA will train you to thier standards when you get there, and the -200 is simular enough to get you the right idea. In fact I think you're better off in a -200 then in an EFIS bird, because we fly round dial.

 

[BigFlyr]

If you look for advice get a 737NG rating.

There is no such thing as a 737NG rating. Regardless of the 737 you do your type in, it will state "B-737" and that's all. Keep it cheap... Could cost you around $24K in a B-737-700/800 sim! Besides, any company that hires you for a 737NG position is going to either train you or require that you have at least 500 hours is type for F/O and 1000 hours for Capt. positions.

 

[tiktak]

You do not have to pay 25k for your type

got mine at FSB in Seattle
got 6k from Workforce
went for the classic at 9995$
they were short a stick partner in the NG and gave me the 737 NG rating for the same price.
at Boeing the NG rating 15995$
So the whole rating cost me 3995$
got my job still in training. got to speek to the right people
Got a job in China as streetcapt. Great schedule 38 days on 27 days off 9500 taxfree and 2000 housing allowence 65 a day per dieum. Evvry rotation a roundtrip first class ticket to anywhere in the world.

 

[BigFlyr]

Re: You do not have to pay 25k for your type

they were short a stick partner in the NG and gave me the 737 NG rating for the same price.

Does it say B-737NG on your certificate? If it does, maybe I should get mine reissued!

 

[tiktak]

No
only B737
on the FAA pilot reseach it says AB737
I do not know what it stands for.
But on every interview they ask you for your training records. There it shows.
Time being bad right now I take my job in China over flying for a regonal at 22$
I know in the US it is the same and valid for all models.
downwards. EX 200 is valid for 100/200 models only, The classic is valid for 1/2 and 3/4/5/ and NG type rating is good for all models.
But every were else in the world they differencate between the 200 and classic/NG (they are common if you have a efis endorsment). Times are hard and you got to work where the money is. Hope in the 1st Q of 04 i can get my job back.

 

[tiktak]

thanks for that info

In april I delivered a kingair from witchita to nice.
Got on the insurance, passed the transport canada inspection in St john. No problems in Godhaven or reklavic or edingbouro exept the french.
In Paris the french grounded me because they require and in JAA- FCL there is a BE90/99/100/200 type rating.

And they also do not reconise our instrument and atp ratings.

 

[Sideshowbob]

I went to Higher Power in Dallas and it was worth it. Let SWA train you on the specific 737. Just pay your fee and get your B

 

[Fox2]

Thanks for the comments on 200 vs. basic. Anyone have any experience with Premair? They use Alaska Sims. and retired Alaska pilots.

 

[baq]

I attended the PremAir course this Spring. My goal was to get the 737 type and apply with Southwest. PremAir's 200 course was the most economical and offered in Phoenix. Their "classic" (300/400/500) and "NG" (600/700/800/900) training was offered in Seattle. PremAir switched me from the 200 course to the "classic" course due to their scheduling needs (at no additional cost). The class consisted of two pilots. The ground school was taught by a PremAir instructor (BBJ pilot) and a retired Alaska Airlines pilot (MD80/737). All ground training was conducted in the Alaska Airlines training facility (~0800-1600). The Cockpit Procedures trainer, FMC trainer, and Simulator all worked great. The PremAir TCE was a current Alaska Airlines pilot and gave the oral and checkride. The simulator training/checkride was at night (~2200-0500) and the instructor was also an Alaska Airlines pilot.

Since I don't live in Seattle, PremAir provided a positive space ticket on Alaska Airlines. The hotel they used was a 5 minute walk to the Alaska training facility. Everybody was helpful and pleasant to work with. The instructors were passionate and focused on the areas the needed the most attention. The TCE was outstanding and put both of us at ease for the oral and the checkride.

Good Luck and Best Wishes!

 

[Fox2]

baq
Thanks for the detailed review of Premair.