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My point is that AF p*ssies have it much easier than the Army, Navy or especially the USMC, and the AF p*ssies are the biggest bitchers.

That's my point. Get it?

Hey Einstein...myself, HarryShadow and Magnum were in AFSOC...we got there BEFORE everyone else...hauled in the teams..and left looooong after everyone got there...which means we got to experience crapping in holes...to crapping in Harvest Bear sh*tters to crapping in porcelain..so don' start with the p*ssy comments....there was no cable in Pakistan when I got there...MOF 3 hours after I actually got to sleep I was yanked out of my TENT by an SP with a weapon because of a bomb threat.....Duece..your tent was next to mine at that time I think.
 
The "Warrior Monk" term came from Gen Zinni (USMC) just before he retired. Amazing how free-speaking some of the higher-ups can be when they hand in their retirement papers and no longer have to be politically correct and speak as their "masters" speak.

He spoke to some organization about the decimation of the military fighting man (and woman) by the political correctness of the military of that day. Declared something along the lines that the politicians (civilian and military) couldn't have a guy who is trained to kill, destroy, sacrifice, do the dirty work involved in the protection of the USA and then be restricted to a "monk-like" existance when actually at their home base. No smoking, no cussing, no drinking, no strip clubs, no hell-raising like 18-25 year old warriors can do, etc. Said it was asinine for the higher-ups to think a kid would finish work, and then only go straight to some continuing education, then home to study military education, restrict his outside life to be a civic leader, a church leader, boy scout, etc. Said it was unreasonable and irresponsible to demand that of those who worked so hard in the home training fields (as well as deployed) to live under restrictions that basically castrated the soldier/marine/airman/coastie, etc.

Used to have a copy of the speech, but it's long gone. But, I'd buy the man a tall, cold beer for putting that term in the spotlight. He's absolutely right...good luck all.

In all seriousness I have been saying this for a year and actually thought I came up with it, until a buddy in my unit told me Zinni did....and my idea is exactly as his - the truth! They train us to kill...but they won't allow us to revel in it....enjoy our life or ACT like the trained killers, with fangs out, that they WANT us to be...dang....talk about coincidence....glad he said that...although it fell on deaf ears.
 
If you had as much contempt for the the enemy a**holes the USAF has been bombing into oblivion since 1991 as you do for the USAF itself, you'd be an asset in the GWOT. As it is, I (and many others) just think you're an insecure *********************************** who likes to post on FI about what a badass he is. Get it?

No contempt for AF fighter dudes MAGNUM!!, just a sense of amazement that guys that have a better deal than anyone else do so much bitching.
 
My point is that AF p*ssies have it much easier than the Army, Navy or especially the USMC, and the AF p*ssies are the biggest bitchers.

That's my point. Get it?


Dude…please PM me if you’re ever down here at Hurlburt Field…I’ll personally give you a tour of all the memorials we have of the “AF p*ssies” who’ve lost their lives fighting for their country!!!
 
Dude…please PM me if you’re ever down here at Hurlburt Field…I’ll personally give you a tour of all the memorials we have of the “AF p*ssies” who’ve lost their lives fighting for their country!!!

Harry;

No dispute there Harry. I got bent out of shape when I saw the post bitching about a crowded workout facility at Balad.
 
I see things haven't improved much since I retired in '99. Hypocrisy from the leadership is nearly stunning. Must be trained by Democrats. We expect you to kill, maim, and destroy.....but don't say anything that might offend the enemy. We expect you to be a fire breathing warrior, but you can't buy a playboy on base 'cause it's insensitive/immoral to look at p*ssy. We encourage you to pray before flying a combat mission, just don't say the word "God" aloud. Nauseating.
 
Personal observation from a couple of trips to the sandbox. The average USAF support captain is on his fourth rotation of his career. When I was supporting the Marines the typical captain was on his 4th six month rotation since 9/11. The typical USAF support colonel was on his first rotation. The typical Marine support colonel forgot how many deployments he'd been on ten years ago. The Marines appeared to know the difference between 'good order and discipline' and petty BS from the depth of their experience. There's hope for the Air Force, but it's some time after a SERB and some mandatory retirements. Just my opinion. Anyone agree?

And by the way, HarryShadow would have a great avatar if it weren't for the Hercs.
 
Personal observation from a couple of trips to the sandbox. The average USAF support captain is on his fourth rotation of his career. When I was supporting the Marines the typical captain was on his 4th six month rotation since 9/11. The typical USAF support colonel was on his first rotation. The typical Marine support colonel forgot how many deployments he'd been on ten years ago. The Marines appeared to know the difference between 'good order and discipline' and petty BS from the depth of their experience. There's hope for the Air Force, but it's some time after a SERB and some mandatory retirements. Just my opinion. Anyone agree?

And by the way, HarryShadow would have a great avatar if it weren't for the Hercs.

There are very few, if any, support officers on this board. Some are worth a sh**, and some ain't. Next.
 
Personal observation from a couple of trips to the sandbox. The average USAF support captain is on his fourth rotation of his career. When I was supporting the Marines the typical captain was on his 4th six month rotation since 9/11. The typical USAF support colonel was on his first rotation. The typical Marine support colonel forgot how many deployments he'd been on ten years ago. The Marines appeared to know the difference between 'good order and discipline' and petty BS from the depth of their experience. There's hope for the Air Force, but it's some time after a SERB and some mandatory retirements. Just my opinion. Anyone agree?

And by the way, HarryShadow would have a great avatar if it weren't for the Hercs.

Isn't the Air Force force level about 3x the USMC?
 
Retirement rocks guys! I see some things never change.

You know your deployed too long when the Moustache Police show up! The only operation I went on that went smoothly was '93 when we took two gunships, two crews, one mission planner and the CC down to Mombasa after the Blackhawk Down mess in Mogadishu.
No skycops, no 1st shirt, no support peeps. Just doing what we had to do without the bull$hit!
We would sanitize before coming to the airport, i.e. patches. line badges, etc. One day we show up at the airport and there's the skycops, who have opted to set up an ECP to the flight line. They don't want to let us in 'cause we don't have our line badges. We're the minority in Kenya, we're wearing flight suits, and we have our USAF ID cards, who the hell else would we be? They don't want to let us through and its an hour to go time. The AC tells the driver to drive on through. The skycops mumbled something and got out of the way.
I saw the same in Desert Shield (the first time they came up with the General Order One crap!). Deploy ready to kick a$$. Wait, wait, wait. Hmmn, doesn't look like the shooting wil be anytime soon, and before you know it, the skycops have radar guns and people are STARCHING their frickin' BDUs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Originally used in opera companies, "DaveGriffin" is Jive for "first lady". The term was used to designate the leading femalesinger in the opera company, the person to whom the prime roles would be given. The "DaveGriffin" was normally, but not necessarily, a soprano.
Legendarily, these "DaveGriffins" were often regarded as egotistical, unreasonable and irritable, with a rather high opinion of themselves, not shared by others. Although whether they are truly vainer or more hot-tempered than other singers (or than any other people in the opera houses) is highly debatable, nowadays a DaveGriffin often signifies a vain and temperamental person who, although irritating, cannot be done without.

Dave,
Check it out!!! I subsitute your name in for PrimaDonna and the definition still works! How could that be so???? OK, the last part is a bit off...you can be done without.
 
There are very few, if any, support officers on this board. Some are worth a sh**, and some ain't. Next.

I hadn't thought about it before your post, but this is another area where the Navy clearly beats the AF. Our 'Pork Chops' (Navy Supply Corps) are a very good community and highly supportive of our warfighting capability.
 
I hadn't thought about it before your post, but this is another area where the Navy clearly beats the AF. Our 'Pork Chops' (Navy Supply Corps) are a very good community and highly supportive of our warfighting capability.

Lots of interaction with AF support agencies?
 

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