332nd AEW

[HoursHore]

The USAF has inverted to where support now drives the operations.

 

[SB Diver]

Plenty of folks on this forum have missed the point of giving each other a hard time just for the sake of it. That is also a part of aviation, especially military aviation. Bitchy? No. Poking fun at you? Yes. This is getting better each page!

 

[Deuce130]

No one said you don't have to spell correctly to be tough. No one is two words. Good thing you don't need to spell correctly to operate in the AOR.

Cheers!

NTS

Ooof. I'm glad you're not my copilot. Or co pilot. Or co-pilot. But since the grammar police is out in force, I think you've got a double negative in there. Take away the contraction, you're saying "No one said you do not have to spell correctly to be tough." So you mean that you DO have to spell correctly to be tough? Looks like I'll tread lightly at the next spelling bee I go to! Cheers!

 

[dtfl]

The USAF has inverted to where support now drives the operations.

NO SH*T

MX runs the sched and the WG CC lets them....that's crap. I bet Curtis Lemay would have had something to say...

 

[HarryShadow]

How about the sock police??? I got jumped by some extremely high and tight/pencil thin mustache Sergeant at a gym in country because my socks were too short! I asked him where he worked…he said it’s not important. I asked again and he told me he was the services First Sergeant. We had a one-way conversation for a bit (me to him). But when he asked me to leave the gym and go change my socks…my head almost exploded!!! So, I jumped him because he had a tattoo on his calf that covered more than 75% his exposed leg. I told him he needed to leave and put on some pants. He actually had the balls to tell me the AF tattoo policy was loosened in theater (which it isn’t). But I said, “Then so are my socks!!!” This geek actually hung out for an hour waiting for me to leave…I continued my workout for an extra hour that day just to outlast him…small victories!!!

 

[Afterprop]

Retired . . . so glad to be, but so sad that kind of BS is going on in theater. I can only imagine what kind of BS is going on state-side. When I think of what once was, and could be again with the right piss~n~vinegar leadership . . .

You guys carry the fight, to the bad guys, and the guys who don't realize who is carrying the spears ! ! ! To the Pattons of Today, a toast.

 

[HarryShadow]

Good for that 1st shirt, but obviously nothing's changed. "Warrior Monks!" Shack. Never heard that before, hilarious.

The 1st Sh*t threw a fit because it was the CC. We had a co-pilot get one and the same CC position (different dude) threw a fit!!! Go figure!

Can't wait to hear your stories when you get back dude...give em hell!!!

 

[DaveGriffin]

My point was that I think the AF has lost it's focus.

That is a very valid observation Deuce130.

If you can't see an obvious attempt at cynical bitching ....

I would hate to see your 'cynical bitching' if you guys had to deploy on a CVN. The Navy guys don't exactly like it, but they recognize that is the price that must be paid to get close to the action and the bad guys.

I was on the Truman not too long ago. I may be wrong, but I would bet that the work out room on that relatively new CVN, viewed as palatial by the guys on the boat, would pale in comparison to the size and equipment to the facilities at Balad.

 

[Deuce130]

That is a very valid observation Deuce130.



I would hate to see your 'cynical bitching' if you guys had to deploy on a CVN. The Navy guys don't exactly like it, but they recognize that is the price that must be paid to get close to the action and the bad guys.

I was on the Truman not too long ago. I may be wrong, but I would bet that the work out room on that relatively new CVN, viewed as palatial by the guys on the boat, would pale in comparison to the size and equipment to the facilities at Balad.

You're probably right. What's your point? Military members have bitching about things since the beginning of time, whether it was that the clubs the chief gave them were too small, the old cheese was too old, there were no shoes at Valley Forge, the coffee is bad, the rules at balad are stupid. I'm sure you Navy pogues have some favorite complaints about the aircraft carrier. I'm sure you're not all smiley and happy all the time on the boat. Except when it's shower time, of course.

 

[YeOldeProp]

The "Warrior Monk" term came from Gen Zinni (USMC) just before he retired. Amazing how free-speaking some of the higher-ups can be when they hand in their retirement papers and no longer have to be politically correct and speak as their "masters" speak.

He spoke to some organization about the decimation of the military fighting man (and woman) by the political correctness of the military of that day. Declared something along the lines that the politicians (civilian and military) couldn't have a guy who is trained to kill, destroy, sacrifice, do the dirty work involved in the protection of the USA and then be restricted to a "monk-like" existance when actually at their home base. No smoking, no cussing, no drinking, no strip clubs, no hell-raising like 18-25 year old warriors can do, etc. Said it was asinine for the higher-ups to think a kid would finish work, and then only go straight to some continuing education, then home to study military education, restrict his outside life to be a civic leader, a church leader, boy scout, etc. Said it was unreasonable and irresponsible to demand that of those who worked so hard in the home training fields (as well as deployed) to live under restrictions that basically castrated the soldier/marine/airman/coastie, etc.

Used to have a copy of the speech, but it's long gone. But, I'd buy the man a tall, cold beer for putting that term in the spotlight. He's absolutely right...good luck all.

 

[DaveGriffin]

What's your point?

My point is that AF p*ssies have it much easier than the Army, Navy or especially the USMC, and the AF p*ssies are the biggest bitchers.

That's my point. Get it?

 

[stonewall]

My point is that AF p*ssies have it much easier than the Army, Navy or especially the USMC, and the AF p*ssies are the biggest bitchers.

That's my point. Get it?

If you had as much contempt for the the enemy a**holes the USAF has been bombing into oblivion since 1991 as you do for the USAF itself, you'd be an asset in the GWOT. As it is, I (and many others) just think you're an insecure *********************************** who likes to post on FI about what a badass he is. Get it?

 

[DaveGriffin]

If you had as much contempt for the the enemy a**holes the USAF has been bombing into oblivion since 1991 as you do for the USAF itself, you'd be an asset in the GWOT. As it is, I (and many others) just think you're an insecure *********************************** who likes to post on FI about what a badass he is. Get it?

MAGNUM!!

You really don't believe that the AF is a bunch of bitchin' prima donnas that has it much easier than the other branches?

 

[stonewall]

MAGNUM!!

You really don't believe that the AF is a bunch of bitchin' prima donnas that has it much easier than the other branches?

Prima donnas? Nope. Bitchin'? Like, totally.

 

[DaveGriffin]

Prima donnas? Nope. Bitchin'? Like, totally.

I guess Zoomie education is a bit lacking.

Here's the definition of Prima Donna:

Originally used in opera companies, "prima donna" is Italian for "first lady". The term was used to designate the leading femalesinger in the opera company, the person to whom the prime roles would be given. The prima donna was normally, but not necessarily, a soprano.
Legendarily, these "prima donnas" were often regarded as egotistical, unreasonable and irritable, with a rather high opinion of themselves, not shared by others. Although whether they are truly vainer or more hot-tempered than other singers (or than any other people in the opera houses) is highly debatable, nowadays the term often signifies a vain and temperamental person who, although irritating, cannot be done without.

You guys qualify. We definetly can't do without you.