3 Avros to the sand

[Joe Patroni]

I talked to a MX controller today and 3 jets were on their way to be parked today. It sounds like 2 went for sure and there was a possible problem with the 3rd. It is a different facility then the last. A place between Tucson and PHX. The facility will put engine covers on and has a schedule to follow. Every 15 days the need to fire them up and wipe down the struts. It is a repair facility and thats all we know.

 

[xjavro85]

Yep, 505, 508, and 510 went today, 501, 502, 506, 509, and 511 will follow soon. They went to MZJ.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

So who is doing these flights.... Haven't seen any in open time. Are they sending the training dept. guys out on these?

 

[Joe Patroni]

Reserve crew took the first one.

 

[XJdriver]

I flew the last revenue leg in 510XJ from PIT to MSP and took it too the hanger. Yes a reserve crew was taking it the next morning. The mechanic who parked us at the hanger told us a few interesting things. They were origanally told that they had to do 72 engine swaps to get the engines on their original frames. Last week they had them stop. All the planes that were supposed to go to the desert were leased by Wells Fargo. At the last minute something changed and the aircrafts there were to leave were changed and MX was told they had 30 other engine swaps that they would have to do over the next few days. Maybe they worked something out with Wells Fargo. The aircraft that didn't gete sent yet was having a major repair done on the gear. Sounded like a crack on something. The mechanic was pissed because management was telling them to send things as they were and not to make repairs that should be done on some things.

 

[Joe Patroni]

They sent our mechanics to AZ to finish up the job. It was very difficult to get the planes that needed engine swaps in MSP so they sent the mechs to AZ.

 

[Mysteryofflight]

Strange though that they are still buying out trips for Avro F/O's doing IOE........

 

[jumppilot03]

Just did the last revenue flight of 506. DTW-MSP
So Long

 

[Monster Buck]

How much would you like for that bridge?

 

[Max Powers]

I flew the last revenue leg in 510XJ from PIT to MSP and took it too the hanger. Yes a reserve crew was taking it the next morning. The mechanic who parked us at the hanger told us a few interesting things. They were origanally told that they had to do 72 engine swaps to get the engines on their original frames. Last week they had them stop. All the planes that were supposed to go to the desert were leased by Wells Fargo. At the last minute something changed and the aircrafts there were to leave were changed and MX was told they had 30 other engine swaps that they would have to do over the next few days. Maybe they worked something out with Wells Fargo. The aircraft that didn't gete sent yet was having a major repair done on the gear. Sounded like a crack on something. The mechanic was pissed because management was telling them to send things as they were and not to make repairs that should be done on some things.

Yes, I have some ocean front property for sale in Nebraska are you interested?

 

[xjavro85]

Actually our mechs are not going down to finish up, Evergreen is doing them and one of our mechs will oversee everthing.

 

[XJdriver]

Yes, I have some ocean front property for sale in Nebraska are you interested?

Max Powers,
Is it so hard to believe that a mechanic would say something like this while he was venting? Not really sure where you are going with this one!

 

[Mysteryofflight]

Well from what I've seen in the past, the truth lies somewhere in between rumor and realistic speculation. That being the case let's run some numbers on where our company might be going.

Realistic speculation: NWA's announcement to park 35 Avros and 49 Saabs.

Rumor: Mesaba is posturing for concessions and is not really parking any aircraft for long. Hell let's even throw in receipt of the full 15 CRJ's.

And the final tally is: Reduction of 17 Avros and 24 Saabs. Addition 13 CRJ's

Leaving Mesaba with a total reduction of 28 a/c. At the current staffing @ 10.5 flight crew per airplane this would reduce the staffing by 294 pilots.

Ouch.

 

[wmudriver]

We just parked 9 Avro's yesterday and how many furloughs as a result? 0

My brain hurts...need hippie lettuce to relieve pain...

 

[Mysteryofflight]

We just parked 9 Avro's yesterday and how many furloughs as a result? 0

My brain hurts...need hippie lettuce to relieve pain...

So you think if we park a total of 28 airplanes there won't be any pilot reductions? How about another refill on your kool-aid son.

 

[gnx99]

I'd assume they'd post furloughs not too long after the reduction "award" comes out.

 

[wmudriver]

So you think if we park a total of 28 airplanes there won't be any pilot reductions? How about another refill on your kool-aid son.

Yep, thats exactly what I think.


No furloughs to Feb? WTF


Side note: Did anyone attend an Ed Davidson roadshow? what did you think?

 

[5ontheglide]

So if you send 9 Avros to the sand and sun for good supposedly - why would you choose to continue to pay the bottom 90 on the senoirity list for the next month to sit reserve and probably not be used hardly at all? Allbeit that doesn't cost too much for payroll. Let's hope there is something amazing in the works... Keep hope alive MEsaaaaaaaaaaaabaaaaaaaaa!

 

[gnx99]

I still don't understand this "no furloughs until Feb." stuff. There already are >20 on furlough.

 

[JetMonkey]

It is a different facility then the last. A place between Tucson and PHX. The facility will put engine covers on and has a schedule to follow. Every 15 days the need to fire them up and wipe down the struts. It is a repair facility and thats all we know.

Sounds like Pinal Air Park (Evergreen Air Center). Cool place to see all the planes stored.