2400 nm range

[400A]

Hawker 800xp with winglets would work well. What is the pax load and runway requirements at each end?

I second this. Nice aircraft available in the 5 mil neighborhood. A little extra for proline 21 is worth it.

 

[JJET44]

A Falcon 50, doesn't even need to be an EX. Late model straight 50s are going extremely reasonable and there are still some great deals still out there for 50EXs.

I second that!

 

[Kingairrick]

Paging LegacyDriver.....

 

[njcapt]

Paging LegacyDriver.....

If we keep our heads down maybe he won't notice we're in here.

Seconding or thirding the Falcon 50.

 

[LegacyDriver]

If we keep our heads down maybe he won't notice we're in here.

Seconding or thirding the Falcon 50.

I noticed. Just kept my mouth shut. People know where to find me if they need to.

IX-NEH on the ALCON-FEH.

 

[Quimby]

G-3

 

[2000Easyguy]

Falcon 50. Not sure if that was mentioned?

 

[LegacyDriver]

Good thing above 390 and 5,000 strips aren't requirements.

FL410 capable. Sea Level max weight takeoff BFL at 100 degrees F is 6000' which gets you 3450NM (Legacy 600) or 3900NM (Legacy 650). BFL to go 2400 NM is significantly shorter for both planes.

Just correcting the record. Let's not start another flame war.

For what he is asking for why not a CRJ Phoenix conversion? Aren't these things 3000NM and relatively inexpensive?

 

[spxdriver]

For what he is asking for why not a CRJ Phoenix conversion? Aren't these things 3000NM and relatively inexpensive?

LD, stop recommending junk.

For 2,400 nm, go with a Hawker 800XP, Falcon 50, 2000, or Citation Sovereign. Stay away from the corporate jet wannabe jets; ie: CRJ, Legacy, etc. They may do the job most of the time, but the first time you want to go out of a 4800' wet runway with anti-ice on, you won't be going 2400 nm in any of the RJ's.

 

[TXDA2000]

Don' forget the Jetstar II.

 

[con-pilot]

Don' forget the Jetstar II.

Ah now, if one wants an aircraft that loved runways on hot days, let alone a high altitude runway, the Jetstar II/731 is it.

Come to think about it, are there any Jetstars II/731s still flying?

 

[Avalanche]

Cl300

+1. Great product.

 

[njcapt]

Come to think about it, are there any Jetstars II/731s still flying?

Got a beautiful quad-731 in our hangar at Mitway. It flies on occasion.

 

[LegacyDriver]

LD, stop recommending junk.

For 2,400 nm, go with a Hawker 800XP, Falcon 50, 2000, or Citation Sovereign. Stay away from the corporate jet wannabe jets; ie: CRJ, Legacy, etc. They may do the job most of the time, but the first time you want to go out of a 4800' wet runway with anti-ice on, you won't be going 2400 nm in any of the RJ's.

That's BS. Legacy can do it out of 4600' (actually less but I only have reduced thrust takeoff data in front of me right now). However, the Legacy sounds like it is bigger than what he is looking for.

If you like rugged go with Embraer. If you like stuff that breaks all the time then go with everyone else. I hear the Sovereign is quite a beast on performance though. Not a bad machine there.

 

[spxdriver]

That's BS. Legacy can do it out of 4600' (actually less but I only have reduced thrust takeoff data in front of me right now).

Not BS.
An airplane with AE3007A1E engines at 42,000 lbs has a V1 of 114, VR of 121, and V2 of 129. Anti-ice on, and runway wet requires 6,241'.
Slightly more than 4,600' LD...