2013 L-CAL System Bid Out

[Flopgut]

Clue #2: the arbitrators will see which side has been using every opportunity to manipulate the SLI process. Name one area, event or JCBA item that sUAL demanded that had the sole purpose to manipulate the SLI?

We are just days into the formal SLI process and sUAL pilots are conspiring with the CEO trying to get a sCAL bid cancelled/changed?! That's blatant. We have done nothing more than prudent SLI work ought to include.

 

[BID]

Clue #1: higher pay is tied to bigger planes. Your right, arbitrators won't look at that...genius.

Is this why the L-UAL attempted to block L-CAL's request for pilot's W-2s??

 

[ATRCA]

Is this why the L-UAL attempted to block L-CAL's request for pilot's W-2s??

UALALPA knew that the W-2 data would show that more widebodies wasn't going to lead to better pay. They fought very hard to protect that data because it blew giant holes in their widebody argument. L-CAL large narrowbody paid more and a guy hired a decade later than the same UAL pilot was not only making more, he was progressing faster.

 

[nimtz]

The bases didn't happen because they would have been a TPA violation.

When you say worked for...do you mean VJMg yourself silly? This UPA is not the best contract sUAL pilots have ever had but sure is for sCAL crews!

Only partially correct. Remember this epic MEC update from JH:
"A CAL 737 base in SFO, while permitted in the TPA extension, would have had an emotional impact on the United Pilots."

Btw this contract still SUCKS. Although I really dig seeing a bowl full of sugar filled granola bars every time I go to work. Can't wait for 87 76 seaters to show up next year! Btw VJM has been sign, sealed, and delivered by Unical ALPA. Instead of fighting it as in the past, I'll be putting my name on the Senior Man list whenever I feel like it.

 

[eaglesview]

Is this why the L-UAL attempted to block L-CAL's request for pilot's W-2s??

That request was a joke. Any common Joe with internet access could find the payrates. It was nothing but a desperate attempt by CAL to try and gain an edge in the ISL because they know they need one. An embarrassing moment for the CAL foks.

 

[eaglesview]

We are just days into the formal SLI process and sUAL pilots are conspiring with the CEO trying to get a sCAL bid cancelled/changed?! That's blatant. We have done nothing more than prudent SLI work ought to include.

W-2 requests......787 bids years before an airplane even showed up.....this bid put out after the JCBA..........CAL side is desperate and they should be.

 

[list2002]

I didn't know the pilots controlled when bids came out. Or what positions would be included in them, you give us way too much credit.

 

[RT8VA]

You guys should read the book Sky Gods about the rise and fall of Pan Am, awful lot of similarities both in facts and statements. It's going to be an interesting finish to the end of summer.

 

[ChrisJT6]

We are just days into the formal SLI process and sUAL pilots are conspiring with the CEO trying to get a sCAL bid cancelled/changed?! That's blatant. We have done nothing more than prudent SLI work ought to include.

Holding CAL MEC to the TPA that they agreed to is conspiring with the CEO? Can't understand why you want want to taken another ALPA pilot groups flying in an illegal(against the TPA for LAX 756) or unfair manner...oh, I almost forgot who bred and mentored you, I remember now.

 

[ChrisJT6]

Only partially correct. Remember this epic MEC update from JH:
"A CAL 737 base in SFO, while permitted in the TPA extension, would have had an emotional impact on the United Pilots."

Btw this contract still SUCKS. Although I really dig seeing a bowl full of sugar filled granola bars every time I go to work. Can't wait for 87 76 seaters to show up next year! Btw VJM has been sign, sealed, and delivered by Unical ALPA. Instead of fighting it as in the past, I'll be putting my name on the Senior Man list whenever I feel like it.

I don't expect you to thank then UAL crews for the highest paying contract you've ever had but I guarantee the UAL crews are extremely happy about ending CAL MEC...good luck to you VJMg. BTW, it was in both of our previous contracts...we just didn't embrace it like you with crews on furlough! Why would you do that....oh, yeah I almost forgot who bred and mentored you.

That type of one way behavior gets the rest of us pretty fired up or emotional