200% for ASA CR2 opentime....

[nerjdriver]

Ground school scoop.... CT says hiring/interviewing has filled Nov classes but will continue for a pool to cover more 70 seaters coming (30 unconfirmed), and a Mem and Cae base in the near future.

rumor on the XJT side is hiring on the 145 soon too

 

[at7driver]

this could get interesting..

 

[Speedtape]

Medeco,

While I see your point, I don't think it applies to me. The company wants 200% premium pay in an LOA or something? Fine, ALL premium trips from here on out pays 200%, as should all JM and extensions. Allowing the company to do whatever they need to KEEP from properly staffing the airline provides longterm gains for them and short term gains for us coupled with a long term loss for us.

Having some BS agreement that says "premium trips and JM will pay 150% unless the company REALLY needs to cover trips due to their poor planning, during which time they can pay whatever the heck they want" to get guys to cover trips to allow this ship to sail on fumes is wasting real opportunity and bargaining power.

Unless you feel that running thin like this will get us A320s or something, in which case we should be having a completely different discussion.

If you are under guarantee, and pick up time, you get 1 hour pay for every hour flown on top of your MMG.

They are hiring now for the additional block hours that they have already picked up. In the world of contract flying, the chicken comes before the egg. We don't do the marketing or the business planning, we just do the staffing after another company tells us how high to jump.

Opportunity comes with a little pain. No pain, no gain. The double time pay was intended to entice those who want to fly for more money, to fly, so as to give less exposure to those who just want to fly their schedule. It should work to some degree. However, if a pilot does get Junior Manned or extended, the 200% should make it a little more palatable. This will only last through November, and maybe a week or so into December until new hires are on line. Relief is on the way, and then you can gripe about there being no open time.

As a result, there will be upgrades, people moving up, and people on Reserve getting off Reserve. SO, what do you prefer; that additional block hours go to another carrier while we watch? Take a survey, you will be in the minority.

Poor planning? They don't get to plan, in our world. The get to react to some other entity's planning. That is the reality. There are plenty of people who are unemployed that would gladly take our jobs. Personally, I am willing to take a little short term pain for the gain. The understaffing is being corrected.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Poor planning? They don't get to plan, in our world. The get to react to some other entity's planning. That is the reality. There are plenty of people who are unemployed that would gladly take our jobs. Personally, I am willing to take a little short term pain for the gain. The understaffing is being corrected.

I agree with almost all of your points, but MY problem with this whole goat rope is that I and others (in our lowly non-big-picture positions) saw this months ago. I wrote a letter to BH back in APRIL about what I perceived to be dangerous staffing levels. He said he would look into it.

Well, here it is October...... 7 MONTHS after we voiced our concern. The only reason it is being addressed is because after 5 months of reserves being abused, line holders are finally being abused. Weeks after that happens and NOW they're gonna take some action!!

Caught by surprise with new flying??

 

[Speedtape]

I agree with almost all of your points, but MY problem with this whole goat rope is that I and others (in our lowly non-big-picture positions) saw this months ago. I wrote a letter to BH back in APRIL about what I perceived to be dangerous staffing levels. He said he would look into it.

Well, here it is October...... 7 MONTHS after we voiced our concern. The only reason it is being addressed is because after 5 months of reserves being abused, line holders are finally being abused. Weeks after that happens and NOW they're gonna take some action!!

Caught by surprise with new flying??

So, in April, you knew the outcome of the Mesa lawsuit and how their flying would be redistributed? In April, you knew that Delta and United would both increase our block hours for the rest of the year? Please, pick me some numbers for the Super Ball Lottery. Just PM them to me so I want have to share the booty with everyone else on FI.

Yes, they were caught by surprise. I guess they should have listend back in April.

Now, a prediction from my crystal ball, you may be off Reserve by December!

I was thinking; wouldn't it be nice if they built all the wider roads and the super hiways before they built all the subdivisions? To my knowledge, that never happens. Infrastructure usually follows growth--unfortunately!

 

[OCP]

So, in April, you knew the outcome of the Mesa lawsuit and how their flying would be redistributed? In April, you knew that Delta and United would both increase our block hours for the rest of the year? Please, pick me some numbers for the Super Ball Lottery. Just PM them to me so I want have to share the booty with everyone else on FI.

Yes to all of that. Really you didn't think that Mesa was having problems? Really you didn't think that the economy was improving and we might have more flying? Really you didn't think that we were supposed to lose 6 200s from delta, but at the same time we STILL had those 2 CMR airplanes that we were only supposed to have until the end of LAST summer. Maybe all of us on reserve are as amazing as you say. But since we are all still here, I guess not.
So while we are all happy that you are willing to get extended a few times now and again to help out the team, you still have no idea what the reserves have done in the last 9 months. Oh and thank you for taking the trips that you now get paid more than a 747 CA at most places, while we on reserve just get to do with no choice.

 

[the palm]

Yes to all of that. Really you didn't think that Mesa was having problems? Really you didn't think that the economy was improving and we might have more flying? Really you didn't think that we were supposed to lose 6 200s from delta, but at the same time we STILL had those 2 CMR airplanes that we were only supposed to have until the end of LAST summer. Maybe all of us on reserve are as amazing as you say. But since we are all still here, I guess not.
So while we are all happy that you are willing to get extended a few times now and again to help out the team, you still have no idea what the reserves have done in the last 9 months. Oh and thank you for taking the trips that you now get paid more than a 747 CA at most places, while we on reserve just get to do with no choice.

We ALL know what the reserves have been through this year and quite frankly I am tired of hearing about it. Reserve will always suck. Period. Airlines will always need the flexibility that reserves provide them and they will NEVER give it up. Huff and puff all you want, but the pilot group doesn't care about reserves. No pilot group will ever strike for reserve issues.

 

[Freebrd]

reserves bitchin bout flying too much, too many days in a row, now bitchin cause they may get to sit at home, bitchin cause they cant get 200% pay cause they cant pu OT, geezzzzzz

 

[Medeco]

reserves bitchin bout flying too much, too many days in a row, now bitchin cause they may get to sit at home, bitchin cause they cant get 200% pay cause they cant pu OT, geezzzzzz

Im not sure which reserve's are bitchin cause they cant pick up OT?

Missed that I suppose.

When is the last time you flew an entire month of reserve and had a credit worth 103hrs, days off moved, single day off followed by 6 on?

I dont recall if you are one or not. Seriously.

Anyone that has had a schedule like this on reserve, will tell you it's not the same as 103hrs flying as a line holder.

FOR ME, the tipping point is when you have 90% of the reserves with this kind of schedule, AND line pilots being extended or junior manned. They reached this point a while back and were still slow to move on it.

Anyway, we are on a positive trend now, and prior managements would still be giving us the finger.

 

[sayrejm]

Just a fact from a reserve guy. so far this month (including the last day of last month) I had 6 on, one off on wednesday, and now I am on day two of six on again.

6/1/6

I have done only one round trip in the last 8 days while I was TDYed to IAD

I have had ready reserve 5 times in the last 2 weeks.

Due to the TDY I am at 40+ hours of credit including the 4 day starting tomorrow.

So, I am happy with my credit... But I really haven't flown jack this month.

These are just facts, I will let ya'll argue if it means anything.

 

[buscap]

Just a fact from a reserve guy. so far this month (including the last day of last month) I had 6 on, one off on wednesday, and now I am on day two of six on again.

6/1/6

I have done only one round trip in the last 8 days while I was TDYed to IAD

I have had ready reserve 5 times in the last 2 weeks.

Due to the TDY I am at 40+ hours of credit including the 4 day starting tomorrow.

So, I am happy with my credit... But I really haven't flown jack this month.

These are just facts, I will let ya'll argue if it means anything.

Once again....HOOOORAY FOR BOOOBIES!!!


THANK YOU

THANK YOU

THANK YOU

Oh yeah, and something about your post....uuuuhhhhhmmm???

We're gonna need you to come in on sunday...OK...yyyeeeaaahh

 

[JumpersAway]

IAD reserve Captain here- flying every day on reserve. Credited just shy of 100 hours last month. Comuting to short call sux, but I did it to myself, so I don't have the right to bitch.

A note to anyone that wants to upgrade and will be going from a sweet line to reserve- reserve sux, it will always suck, and it's not going to get better.........ever. If you are able to be used, you will be. You are trading QOL, voluntarily, for the opportunity to upgrade. It's part of the game, always has been, and always will be- regardless of airline and regardless of mainline or regional.

In my opinion, many things came togeather to form the mess we're in, and not all of them are easily forseen.........

Delta wanted to can 50 seat flying. Mesa was the cut they were looking for. However, after Delta won the lawsuit against Mesa, the economy started to rebound enough that more people were flying and the bookings didn't fall off for the fall as expected. Delta realized the cut in flying was too deep, hit the panic button, and we were the solution.....

PBS was supposed to help the staffing, but didn't come on line as quickly as expected because Flightline messed it up.

I upgraded 2.5 months ago as a previously qualled Captain, and only needed a procheck and oe to get out on line. This was the case with around 10 others. However, the rest of the award I was on is only NOW getting out on line. Part of having a great training department is a trade off in time needed to upgrade our Captains- the right way.

We've seen the worst of the staffing issues, and it's going to ease up as the relief hits the line. We're only now seeing the results of the solution. While irritating, it's just the way the airline's, all of them, do business. Run lean, go from a stand still to wide open, and it will never change- every airline operates this way, or at least the ones that stay in business.

 

[OCP]

We ALL know what the reserves have been through this year and quite frankly I am tired of hearing about it. Reserve will always suck. Period. Airlines will always need the flexibility that reserves provide them and they will NEVER give it up. Huff and puff all you want, but the pilot group doesn't care about reserves. No pilot group will ever strike for reserve issues.

I'm not at all complaining about what they did. I think it's great. I am fine with line holders getting 200% if it takes pressure off of the reserves. What I stated in my post was that the company's lame excuse that they were caught off guard with all of this is BS. They tried to run as lean as they could and it failed. How does JP still have a job?

 

[sayrejm]

Honestly as a reservist I don't want the pressure taken off me. I went through all my savings on furlough. I have no money and just spent 600 bucks at the doctors because of this stupid new HSA (I will be switching back to the PPO).

I know I do not speak for everyone but thats just my point of view. I want 100 a month... not forever, but for the next few months would be nice.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Yeah, the PPO is the only way to roll. you all don't realize what it takes to run a hospital or physician's office. 75% of it is overhead and malpractice insurance. And the rest is taxed at 48%.
But hey, obama is going to make it all an even bigger disaster which is why skywest is trying to shift the burden to the employee.

 

[zawillif]

I have the HSA and I love it. It's a million times better than our PPO, at least for me.

 

[79%N1]

Honestly as a reservist I don't want the pressure taken off me. I went through all my savings on furlough. I have no money and just spent 600 bucks at the doctors because of this stupid new HSA (I will be switching back to the PPO).

I know I do not speak for everyone but thats just my point of view. I want 100 a month... not forever, but for the next few months would be nice.

Why didn't that come out of the 1000 the company put in, or did you use that? You can also put money into the HSA that you save on your premiums to build that account, and then invest that money as it hopefully grows. The max out of pocket is less with the HSA too.. Just wondering.

 

[sayrejm]

500 - 600 is -100

i dont get another 500 until jan.

then i have another appointment which will be a 250 dollar visit plus another 80 dollar test...

so basically im wiping out the 1000 before i ever really had it.

then if i saved so much a month to put into it it would be months if not a year before i had enough for even one more appointment.

not to get personal but i can think of at least 3 other things right now i would like to go to a doctor and try to get fixed. wont be able to afford any of that on an HSA

for me the HSA was sold on me and a bad choice on my part. im gonna go back to having "real" insurance.

 

[79%N1]

Remember you only pay to your deductible. Admittedly, HSA is a better deal if you don't get sick or injured.

 

[sayrejm]

Yes.. my deductible... which resets in 2 1/2 months. I will agree that it is better for some people. I am just discovering I am not some people.