1990's - "The Good 'Ol Days"

[WMUSIGPI]

It certainly has changed...we had people walk out of interviews when told they would not be "guaranteed" a seat on the RJ. Kids that said "I deserve the jet cause I have 1000 hours with 150 multi" Maybe if every one had to get furloughed and watch their company go under ...be out of aviation for a few years ..work at a job they hate...start over at the bottom....o say three times...then some attitudes would be a tad different.

Not surprising, sadly. I was actually hoping for the Saab so I could get DTW right out of class. But I was still happy and made sure to make the best of everything (while it lasted) to be in CVG on the Avro. I am really lucky though that my wife wouldn't move down there with the S*** sandwich being served to us XJ'ers. At least here I found a PIC Citation job, even if I have to brave the bowels of YIP.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

uke:

Yep, the good (?) old days... glad to see someone else here remembers the same stuff. The early '90s; back when you could barely get a 135 check hauling job with 2000 hrs; when it took 4-5000 hrs to get a BE-1900/J-31/E-110 FO job; when the E-120, SF-340, Dash 8 and ATR-42 were "heavy iron", not looked down upon as turboprop trash by a 900 hr TT kid in the right seat of an RJ... and an RJ? What's that? Going from C-172 CFI to right seat at a "commuter"? Nope, that didn't happen.

I know it's a whole new world now, the industry has changed completely... but it's kinda funny (or sad, actually) to hear some of the kids on here whining about how bad things are; they really have no idea...

The really sad part is that these kids are thrilled to make the same if not less (from inflation's perspective) flying 70 people that you guys made flying 19.
uke:

 

[bigboeings]

Yep in 93 I couldn't even get that 135 night check job with 2500 hrs. They kept being taken by furloughed guys. Had to work the ramp for a year before I got my big break flying a 99. Great days they were!

 

[BRA]

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0000572/L/

how about that one? This was before the days of glass cockpit, auto-everything RJ's of today, flown by snot-nose Embry Riddle PFT crybabies who have never hand flown an ILS to mins in heavy rain, on analog gages, with PAX in the back.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0279881/M/

I graduated riddle in 2000 and this was the first airliner i flew. I still have yet to fly a glass cockpit airplane. I flew this to mins many times, in heavy rain and snow. Big boeings can back me up on that one. Not all riddle people make it to the nice RJ at 900 hours.

 

[asaflyer]

Yep in 93 I couldn't even get that 135 night check job with 2500 hrs. They kept being taken by furloughed guys. Had to work the ramp for a year before I got my big break flying a 99. Great days they were!

I remember the days..... When I finished flight school in '93 I was the luckiest man in the world 'cause I had a contact that hooked me up flying skydivers on the weekend in a 59' 182.....for FREE. Or should I say "they didn't even charge me to fly it for 'em."

 

[AppBrookie]

Huck,
TransSouth BHM, That brings back memories!! HM took a chance on a 1300hr guy, lucky me, the day I started(11/91) two different guys from Eastern walked in looking for work. Nine months later on to ASA, 4.5 years to the left seat of the Brasilia, then a couple years reserve/standups. Off to greener pastures, to be furloughed 3.5 yrs later.
Great Job but a Sorry Career!!!!!!

 

[007]

Some of us still work before we go on to the regionals. Don't judge everyone at the regionals by the frosted hair 21 yr old running around. You guys sound just like the old guys, YOU SAID you would NEVER sound like.

 

[Whale Rider]

The thread should read: "The 1960's, 1970's, 1980's 1990's - The good ol' days."

 

[pilotyip]

The old rule of years ending 3 are bad years to find jobs, years ending in 8 are great years to find jobs. 60's, 70's, 80's, and the 90's, now the 00's. Hiring boom is starting next year leading up to 2008, get those ratings now and be on the top of the hiring curve.

 

[xjlifer]

Gee nice of Kit Darby to stop by.

 

[BenderGonzales]

That's not Kit, it's one of Kit's disciples.

On topic, I remember in 1996 (less than 10 years ago) when we used to make fun of the Saab pilots. Called them, "Glass Asses" because they had an autopilot, hot coffee, an F/A. Their shirts were always crisp and white (much less sweat and oil stains).

We would beg for a few bags of pretzels when we parked next to them.

10 legs a day... Johnstown, Pittsburgh, Altoona, Pittsburgh, Johnstown, Pittsburgh, Johnstown, Pittsburgh, Altoona, Pittsburgh, Johnstown.

No autopilot. (Today's Riddle, Comair Academy, etc. kids would never make it)

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Interior: http://www.airbroker.se/images/propjet/j31int.jpg

Cockpit: [FONT=ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva][FONT=ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva][FONT=ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva]http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0850319/M/[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]

 

[pilotyip]

Kit speaks the truth, you have to believe. Your only salvation for your lost pilot career is to listen to the truth. Kit speaks the truth, well most of the time. Sometimes things change like pensions, pay, hiring and working conditions.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Sometimes things change like pensions, pay, hiring and working conditions.

Change? I guess the dropping of an atomic bomb will "change" a city, too.

 

[Whine Lover]

"..flown by snot-nose Embry Riddle PFT crybabies who have never hand flown an ILS to mins in heavy rain, on analog gages, with PAX in the back."

Sir,

I must retort. Yes, I was a "snot-nosed Embry-Riddle type" at one point.

However, I never paid for any training, and I have flown more approaches, by hand, raw data on analog gauges, in larger airplanes, with more "PAX" in the back than you ever have... or will.

Why?

Because you have a bad attitude Son, and it will show through everytime you interview.

Don't generalize about groups of people. It only makes you look bad, not them.

You'll grow up someday.

Til' then...Good Luck.

YKW

 

[capt. megadeth]

Real men fly "Junkstreams."http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0445844&size=L&width=1024&height=698&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg_trarevp%20%3D%20%27Oevgvfu%20Nrebfcnpr%20Wrgfgernz%2031%2FFhcre%2031%27%29%20NAQ%20%28nveyvar%20YVXR%20%27Genaf%20Jbeyq%20Rkcerff%25%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=8

AAhhhhhh, my first airliner.

Those were fun times. When I was in J31 new hire raining, there was a Chautaqua class there to fly the Saab. I remember thinking "WOW, I don't know if I could ever fly THAT" I just thought the Saab was the best. I ended up flying it for 4 years. It was my first type. It's still the one that puts a little tear in the eye.