1261 days to go!

[livin'thesim]

Takes time. No one is expecting instant results.
Only a complete fool would suggest that anyone was expecting instant results.

 

[Quimby]

And where is all the attrition? You guys are such Kool Aid drinkers or completely ignorant.

One day at a time, amigo.

 

[charlie2]

+28 Remember Lads and Lasses a lot of our geezers have been out on LTD so their removal won't help us move up. It is though better than a sharp stick in the eye.

 

[727gm]

Why is this still a sticky?

Because of the need to see if vehement posters will actually retire upon reaching the terribly advanced age of 60 like they're demanding of their elders.

And where is all the attrition? .

See above...If they really believe 60-year-olds should leave, we should see it start right up soon....

 

[boomlrd]

I will be gone by 60, but I am only 35 now, so I got a few years before you see those of us who are preparing properly for retirement gone, and I even have a boat, motorcycles, ex-wife, and other toys, I just play it a bit more frugal than others.

 

[hammer2]

I will be gone by 60, but I am only 35 now, so I got a few years before you see those of us who are preparing properly for retirement gone, and I even have a boat, motorcycles, ex-wife, and other toys, I just play it a bit more frugal than others.

A lot can happen between ages 35 and 45. You may want to bump that retirement age up to...I'll evaluate my retirement options at age 60.

 

[eaglesview]

I will be gone by 60, but I am only 35 now, so I got a few years before you see those of us who are preparing properly for retirement gone, and I even have a boat, motorcycles, ex-wife, and other toys, I just play it a bit more frugal than others.

With all due respect you have know clue what the next 25 years will hold. Wait and see.

 

[pilotyip]

With all due respect you have know clue what the next 25 years will hold. Wait and see.

nice touch of reality for FI

 

[livin'thesim]

Because of the need to see if vehement posters will actually retire upon reaching the terribly advanced age of 60 like they're demanding of their elders.



See above...If they really believe 60-year-olds should leave, we should see it start right up soon....

Listen, you sniveling little wretch, if you want to make it 60 for everyone, I would sign that RIGHT NOW.

But after having five years stolen from me by a bunch of wrinkled old cowards, I now have to work until 65 to earn back what was stolen.

I suggest that you familiarize yourself with a concept called "time value of money".

 

[Chest Rockwell]

Stolen? I didn't know that advancement/upgrade was an entitlement. If the delay of five years is the worst that happens in your career, count yourself lucky. Name-calling on an anonymous won't get you much credibility.

If the 60 rule had any merit whatsoever, changing than mandatory age back to 60 shouldn't be too difficult.

 

[pilotyip]

If the 60 rule had any merit whatsoever, changing than mandatory age back to 60 shouldn't be too difficult.

What? and undo the tremedeous safety advantage gained by going to age 65. Since age 65 was passed we had the five safest years in airline histroy

 

[pilotyip]

opps wrong button

 

[livin'thesim]

I'm all for it.

The advancement was stolen by a bunch of scared, greedy, lazy, old cowards who did not prepare for retirement, and decided to eat off another man's plate to make up for their foolishness.

Just like the effeminate little baby boomers to change the rules for themselves.

What a generation of cowards and fools.

Frankly, I hope that Obamacare is actually as rough on the boomers as everyone says it will be.

The boomers ruined everything. What a waste of space.

 

[SIG600]

What? and undo the tremedeous safety advantage gained by going to age 65. Since age 65 was passed we had the five safest years in airline histroy

You do realize, all those same guys were flying the prior years? Are you trying to say you only stop sucking as a pilot from age 60-65? Because that's hilarious.

 

[laker4284]

I'm all for it.

The advancement was stolen by a bunch of scared, greedy, lazy, old cowards who did not prepare for retirement, and decided to eat off another man's plate to make up for their foolishness.

Just like the effeminate little baby boomers to change the rules for themselves.

What a generation of cowards and fools.

Frankly, I hope that Obamacare is actually as rough on the boomers as everyone says it will be.

The boomers ruined everything. What a waste of space.

Having a temper tantrum are you? Relax. As you mature your childish outbursts will grow less frequent. Hopefully.

 

[Remington]

What? and undo the tremedeous safety advantage gained by going to age 65. Since age 65 was passed we had the five safest years in airline histroy

It's because the Pilots Monitoring have more experience.

 

[pilotyip]

It's because the Pilots Monitoring have more experience.

That is right, and those 60+ guys do about 50% of the PM duties

You do realize, all those same guys were flying the prior years? Are you trying to say you only stop sucking as a pilot from age 60-65? Because that's hilarious.

not hilarious, it is safety.

 

[livin'thesim]

Having a temper tantrum are you? Relax. As you mature your childish outbursts will grow less frequent. Hopefully.

Hate all you want, we'll make more.

At least the geezers are finally on the conveyor belt OUT.

I mean it about Obamacare, too. Wouldn't it just be a hoot to see that the very legislation that these fools voted in ended up being their undoing.

Ha!

 

[laker4284]

The advancement was stolen by a bunch of scared, greedy, lazy, old cowards

Hate all you want, we'll make more.

Ah...

Livin', you seem to be the hater. It must be sad to be you. But, on the bright side, I don't have to fly with you (even in a sim)! Sweet!

 

[SIG600]

not hilarious, it is safety.

What it is, is invalid. Your argument that is.

 

[tomgoodman]

Well, whoever deserves credit for it, the safety improvement is real:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/b...globally-since-1945.html?partner=yahoofinance

 

[flyboyike]

Stolen? I didn't know that advancement/upgrade was an entitlement. If the delay of five years is the worst that happens in your career, count yourself lucky. Name-calling on an anonymous won't get you much credibility.

The problem is it wasn't just a delay. Many of us now won't make it as far as we could have (notice I didn't say would have) had the rules not been changed. I, for one, am now operating primarily in a salvage mode, that is to say, I'm no longer concerned with how far ahead I can get, but with how I can not fall any further behind. I'm almost 38, so my time of making big strides in this business is likely over (or nearly over), so now I'm just working on bowing out around 50, 55 at the latest. I have no interest in sticking around just to be an obstacle in somebody else's way.

 

[pilotyip]

I'm almost 38, so my time of making big strides in this business is likely over (or nearly over),

Now that is funny :laugh: Oh! to be almost 38 again and have nothing in front of me. Gosh I was only on my third job since leaving the Navy, I had 8 more jobs to go. But is has been an adventure and I have had a ball.

 

[flyboyike]

Now that is funny :laugh: Oh! to be almost 38 again and have nothing in front of me. Gosh I was only on my third job since leaving the Navy, I had 8 more jobs to go. But is has been an adventure and I have had a ball.

Good for you. I'm not saying I'm not having a ball, I'm saying there are certain economic realities placed in front of me by (among other things) age 65. As a responsible person, I have to deal with those realities. One of them is that I probably have at most two years and change to be hired by a major. Obviously I'm not counting on that, so I have to run my life based on the worst possible case scenario, something the 65-year-olds obviously chose not to do.

 

[livin'thesim]

Ah...

Livin', you seem to be the hater. It must be sad to be you. But, on the bright side, I don't have to fly with you (even in a sim)! Sweet!

Hmm, guess you are the weak one, then, because I would not be afraid to fly with you.

Maybe you should toughen up a little, so you're not so sensitive.

 

[laker4284]

Hmm, guess you are the weak one, then, because I would not be afraid to fly with you.

Maybe you should toughen up a little, so you're not so sensitive.

You interpreted what I wrote as fear? No, you silly child. I was expressing something more akin to relief. Weakness applies to...nothing. Your reading comprehension skills, along with your limited ability to write something deeper than simple and childish outbursts, hamper your ability to communicate.

With all your name calling and excited rhetoric you woud be one tedious dude to fly with. That's it in a nutshell.

 

[scoreboardII]

This is still a sticky because........?

 

[eaglesview]

This is still a sticky because........?

I hear ya.....let it die.

 

[livin'thesim]

You interpreted what I wrote as fear? No, you silly child. I was expressing something more akin to relief. Weakness applies to...nothing. Your reading comprehension skills, along with your limited ability to write something deeper than simple and childish outbursts, hamper your ability to communicate.

With all your name calling and excited rhetoric you woud be one tedious dude to fly with. That's it in a nutshell.

Relief from apprehension? Fear? What...

Sorry you have sensitivity issues - it's okay, I'm sure you could invoke your rights under the Americans with Disabilities act to get me on your no-fly list if needed. "Reasonable accommodation", I think they call it.

No need to get your undies all in a bundle, and I would not want to be responsible for degrading your ability to perform in the flight deck by subjecting you to conflicting ideas and the occasional rhetorical jab. We all have differing abilities to cope with the environment we find ourselves in. That's what makes the world go 'round.

If it helps, though, I could pretend I agree with everything you say, nodding enthusiastically and all. I'm happy to accommodate, just let me know what you need.

I'm good like that, I can keep my cool when I'm trapped in the flight deck with someone who I don't like.

It's very big of you to admit that you're not there yet. We're cool.

 

[laker4284]

Relief from apprehension? Fear? What...

Sorry you have sensitivity issues - it's okay, I'm sure you could invoke your rights under the Americans with Disabilities act to get me on your no-fly list if needed. "Reasonable accommodation", I think they call it.

No need to get your undies all in a bundle, and I would not want to be responsible for degrading your ability to perform in the flight deck by subjecting you to conflicting ideas and the occasional rhetorical jab. We all have differing abilities to cope with the environment we find ourselves in. That's what makes the world go 'round.

If it helps, though, I could pretend I agree with everything you say, nodding enthusiastically and all. I'm happy to accommodate, just let me know what you need.

I'm good like that, I can keep my cool when I'm trapped in the flight deck with someone who I don't like.

It's very big of you to admit that you're not there yet. We're cool.

Yawn. As I said, tedious.