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[Whataburger]

From the Wall Street Journal

(WSJ)Airline travel is now the safest it has been since the dawn of jet planes, with the global airline industry set to mark its lowest rate of fatal accidents since the early 1960s.

The U.S. hasn't had a fatal accident since a commuter plane crashed near Buffalo, N.Y., in 2009.

Experience Counts[/QUOTE

Nah. It's the technology.

 

[SIG600]

No there isn't, the expereinced will be replaced by inexpereinced. When that AAL CA with 10K of MD-80 PIC time retires, he will be replaced by someone with no MD-80 PIC time, who has been sitting the right seat of a &&& for 10 years. The same applies to every major airline out there, the junior equipmnet PIC will be most likely replaced by the senior equipment SIC

It's not rocket science, and all those guys with 10k hours of MD-80 SIC waiting to move up are more than ready. The military is flush with guys that have 10 years of combat/pic time, just waiting for movement to begin as well.

 

[Falconjet]

Whataburger: Can you tell me where a guy hired in Apr of 04 would be right now seniority wise and what the impact of the AT merger would have on them? I think I can figure out how bad the age change was.

Thanks,

FJ

 

[pilotyip]

It's not rocket science, and all those guys with 10k hours of MD-80 SIC waiting to move up are more than ready. The military is flush with guys that have 10 years of combat/pic time, just waiting for movement to begin as well.

But not time as a MD-80 PIC, hence a lowering of experience in the cockpit. Good chance to be flying with a new hire also. Again a loss of experience in the cockpit that has made the last five years the safest in airline history.

 

[BushwickBill]

From the Wall Street Journal

(WSJ)Airline travel is now the safest it has been since the dawn of jet planes, with the global airline industry set to mark its lowest rate of fatal accidents since the early 1960s.

The U.S. hasn't had a fatal accident since a commuter plane crashed near Buffalo, N.Y., in 2009.

Experience Counts[/QUOTE

Nah. It's the technology.

+1

GPWS TAWS + TCAS

 

[SIG600]

But not time as a MD-80 PIC, hence a lowering of experience in the cockpit. Good chance to be flying with a new hire also. Again a loss of experience in the cockpit that has made the last five years the safest in airline history.

If 10k hours of sic is so dangerous, your operation should be raining aluminum on a weekly basis.

 

[livin'thesim]

But not time as a MD-80 PIC, hence a lowering of experience in the cockpit. Good chance to be flying with a new hire also. Again a loss of experience in the cockpit that has made the last five years the safest in airline history.

If you think that being stuck in the right seat for 10+ years because of slow growth somehow means that the ultra high-time FO is somehow of "lower experience", then I have to laugh.

Take a carrier like USAir where the most junior FOs had over a decade on property.

You could have had every captain quit, every FO upgrade, and replace every FO with an EXPERIENCED regional pilot and still be immensely safer than most regionals with their low time new hires.

At a certain point, the PIC/SIC argument becomes moot.

But maybe it takes someone with a college degree to actually understand those kinds of sophisticated concepts, so perhaps I am expecting too much...

 

[pilotyip]

But maybe it takes someone with a college degree to actually understand those kinds of sophisticated concepts, so perhaps I am expecting too much...

Nope just shows you the depth of insight from someone with a Master's Degree.

 

[nordo_2]

Nope just shows you the depth of insight from someone with a Master's Degree.

Yip where be that hiring boom baby???

 

[livin'thesim]

Yip-

You could retire half the current captains from almost any legacy with no real change in safety. There is a point of diminishing returns on any kind of experience, yes, even PIC time.

You conveniently try to use "experience", which is a very nebulous concept to justify a bunch of cowardly old men stealing off another man's plate.

Whatever. I bet the average legacy FO could fly rings around you.

 

[flyboyike]

Whatever. I bet the average legacy FO could fly rings around you.

And not just legacy.

 

[pilotyip]

Yip-Whatever. I bet the average legacy FO could fly rings around you.

Probably, I am just an Navy average pilot, lots of guys got better grades than me during carrier qualification, I think the other check airman in my squadron were better pilots. But I did not run across any of these while going through Navy Flight Training, where I made the Captains list for Academic Performance in Primany, graduated first in my class from Basic Flight and Advanced Flight Training. Wrote the highest score ever recorded in Navigator School. But I have become so comfortable in the center of the envelope that I would not want to try to fly rings around anyone.

Yip where be that hiring boom baby???

Not a baby boomer, I was a War Baby:laugh:

 

[labbats]

Probably, I am just an Navy average pilot, lots of guys got better grades than me during carrier qualification, I think the other check airman in my squadron were better pilots. But I did not run across any of these while going through Navy Flight Training, where I made the Captains list for Academic Performance in Primany, graduated first in my class from Basic Flight and Advanced Flight Training. Wrote the highest score ever recorded in Navigator School. But I have become so comfortable in the center of the envelope that I would not want to try to fly rings around anyone.


Not a baby boomer, I was a War Baby:laugh:

Did you get a badge for humility?

 

[SIG600]

Did you get a badge for humility?

Just ask him about flying combat off wooden carriers at night.

Ironic you're chomping at the bit for a warm pink body to fill seats at any experience level in YIP, yet proclaim all the loss of experience is going to result in a drastic cut to safety. They're either going to die off, or retire, either way movement has to begin at some point. I'd rather see the old guys around long enough to mentor the new hires than just get wheeled out, leaving the mentoring to those scary career FO's.

 

[pilotyip]

Did you get a badge for humility?

Me? I was just agreeing that there are pilots who could fly rings around me. I am just an average pilot. And yes they did have wooden decks on the first one I landed on. We havin' fun yet?

 

[flyboyike]

Probably, I am just an Navy average pilot, lots of guys got better grades than me during carrier qualification, I think the other check airman in my squadron were better pilots. But I did not run across any of these while going through Navy Flight Training, where I made the Captains list for Academic Performance in Primany, graduated first in my class from Basic Flight and Advanced Flight Training.

And then the Civil War started.

 

[flyboyzii]

[/QUOTE] Nah. It's the technology.[/QUOTE]

This..........

 

[crxpilot]

Why is this still a sticky?

 

[relief tube]

because age 65 not eff-ing us anymore is good news for all involved.

gtf out!

 

[BrickTop]

And where is all the attrition? You guys are such Kool Aid drinkers or completely ignorant.