121 vs corporate....career

[Don_Juan]

I need some career advice: Majors or corporate??



I have a fill an upcoming F/O slot in the Challenger 601 and a class with 121....... Which one should I take?? Need some help please?



Have 135 experience...

 

[NotFurloughed]

I have a feeling this is going to be an entertaining post

I'm sure there are MANY people on this board who have experience with both corporate and airline...further, i would expect some to be quick in pointing out the current airline trend. In addition, there are going to be the corporate pilots who had that oh-so-sweet corporate aircraft sold out from underneath them...

This is a very subjective question. However, with some knowledge of the situation I think you (we?) can find the light...

Most importantly are the companis you are talking about...whether you will be employed (if you want to) for a career...

Is the corporate operator a well-established operator, or is it the rich family that bought a new toy/private company that was convinced it needed an aircraft. From the equipment you speak of, I would assume it is a larger coporation. However, you then need to look at the history of the flight department. Have the been part of the companies way of doing business for a long time, or is this a new venture. I would also do some research on the company via the internet (if possible) and see what the future may hold for this flight department. Any possibilities of merger, consolidation, etc. are usually red flags when talking company aircraft.

Concerning the 121 operator...I would use the same approach. Look at the history of the company, the current trends in the industry and try to determine (as best you can) whether they will a) survive...b) continue to grow...or at least maintain their current state ad c) will be a place you can spend a long time working...

Finally, I might try finding employees of one or both companies through this site and get their take on things...the more you can find out, th better...

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Need more information; just toss a coin

I need some career advice: Majors or corporate??



I have a fill an upcoming F/O slot in the Challenger601 and a class with 121....... Which one should I take?? Need some help please?



Have 135 experience...

The corp. plane is large, which is a plus. If the 121 is a commuter, than it should be a no brainer as far as the money and quality of life.....corp. Which is closest to your home, days off, etc.? Ah!, who gives a sh!t, just flip a coin and go to work. Logic and skill most likely won't come in to play any way.

Good luck.

 

[Isla Mujeres]

Just do the opposite of what your gut feeling is telling you!!!

 

[EAP]

I have a feeling if it was a good 121 (ie, a solid LCC/major) the question wouldn't be asked, but I'm ASSuming here.

Whatever you go for, enjoy it, have fun, and keep your resume sharp

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Hey, you have a nice ASSumption

I have a feeling if it was a good 121 (ie, a solid LCC/major) the question wouldn't be asked, but I'm ASSuming here.

Whatever you go for, enjoy it, have fun, and keep your resume sharp

Not that I noticed or anything, I'm just saying!

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Step away from the keyboard.

Not that I noticed or anything, I'm just saying!

I could just step away from the keyboard and just go to bed, but no!

 

[climbhappy]

If you have to commute take the corporate. The QOL is night and day if you live at your domicile.

 

[FN FAL]

If that corporate position pays more than twice what a 3rd year Fedex Express feeder captain makes, I'd suggest you take that 121 job and PM me the details on the corporate FO slot.

 

[EAP]

Nice one!

 

[AA717driver]

FN's always lookin' out for his buddies!

Don--As a former airline pilot forced into the corporate world... If you can get a foot in the door with a corporate job like the 601, you can make a fair amount of money over your career and have pretty good quality of life. I'm certainly not saying there aren't some pretty crappy corporate gigs around but once you get some quality time under your belt, you can move up.TC

 

[On Your Six]

If it is an established corporate operator in a "stable" industry with a good track record of corporate operations, then I would take the 601 job vs. a commuter unless it is a fast-upgrading commuter like Pinnacle or Skywest. How long before you would move to the left-hand seat in the 601 (or log PIC time)? Can you give us a few more details?????? Good luck.

 

[Bandit60]

I agree with most of the people here who say to really look at the companies history. The one thing I have noticed that if you make the wrong choice and you need to go back to the other type of flying, I think going from corporate to airline is easier than airline to corporate. I am just being honest,that corporate management don't always like to hire ex-airline guys.(whether that is right or wrong)

Good luck

 

[Don_Juan]

121 VS. Corp.

Guys!!!



Thank you so much for your feedback. I would like to more clearly about this matter: The 121 with an overseas/Major airline a "Flag carrier" and vs. CL601 at home........





Don

 

[AA717driver]

Emirates or Cathay? At least with Cathay, you can get a U.S. base. Emirates has some crew issues right now(PM Typhoon Pilot--I think he's with EK) and the region is, well, the Middle East.

If it's another foreign carrier, check on pprune.org for some opinions.TC

 

[RiddleMan80]

I need some career advice: Majors or corporate??



I have a fill an upcoming F/O slot in the Challenger601 and a class with 121....... Which one should I take?? Need some help please?



Have 135 experience...

My professors and flight instructors at Riddle always told us that the majors are the way to go. The pay and job security is more stable at a major airline than at a corporate outfit. Not to say that there isn't any bad corporate outfits out there.

If you take the 601 job, that will give you good experience and make you very qualified to interview at a place like ASA or Comair.

 

[Flywrite]

My professors and flight instructors at Riddle always told us that the majors are the way to go.

Sounds like the corporate gig may the better option then!!!

 

[banned username 2]

My professors and flight instructors at Riddle always told us that the majors are the way to go. The pay and job security is more stable at a major airline than at a corporate outfit.

Obviously they have had their head in the sand for a while... ask any USAir guy hired since 1988 Yes, I said Eighty-Eight, 16 years seniority), or any UAL guy hired in the last 6 years (over 2,000 of them) or a BUNCH of former TWA guys how they feel about their "Job Security"... Of course you can't get furloughed from a furlough so I guess it is pretty secure... There are a TON of unfortunate major guys on the street right now who would disagree with your above statement...

If you take the 601 job, that will give you good experience and make you very qualified to interview at a place like ASA or Comair.

Now why would someone want to leave a CL-601 F/O job probably making better than $60k/year to go fly for ComAir or ASA making $20k/year???

 

[Don_Juan]

Major Vs. Corp.

I'm trying to figure out if I can take CL-601 at home or go to join a Major Airline in Scandinavian for few years..... With opportunities on Airbus and Boeing A/C's


All respect to Commuter......never mentioned ASA/ComAir


Don

 

[CatYaaak]

Now why would someone want to leave a CL-601 F/O job probably making better than $60k/year to go fly for ComAir or ASA making $20k/year???

If they did, it's because they're the kind of person who works for years in order to become qualified for and accepts a job that clearly requires you to wear a hat and earn crappy pay, and then spends their time bitching about wearing the hat and the crappy pay, as if it were some sort of big suprise.

Now, "why" is a person that kind of person? Ya got me.