SKYWEST to PAY 4.8 MILLION FOR MOVE

[scarlet]

Skywest is going to pay 4.8 million to move ASA people back to ATL--would it not make sense to just leave those people in SLC and merge the airline?? Get rid of alot of salaries in ATL and just merge the employee groups by DOH--SAVES alot of headache and pissing people off....and ALOT OF MONEY--they could afford to pay us 2-4.00 more an hour if they wanted to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dave Benjamin]

would it not make sense to just leave those people in SLC and merge the airline?? Get rid of alot of salaries in ATL and just merge the employee groups by DOH--

Sounds like a perfect solution to me. And the SkyWest guys and gals won't mind as long as your DOH is changed to the date SKYW bought you so your former parent company could stay in business.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Sounds like a perfect solution to me. And the SkyWest guys and gals won't mind as long as your DOH is changed to the date SKYW bought you so your former parent company could stay in business.

Now we all know that's not going to happen... doesn't matter what the Skywest guys and gals think. No union=no opinion. ASA is union and the RLA governs the merger. Time to get on board.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

No union=no opinion. ASA is union and the RLA governs the merger. Time to get on board.

If you want to help persuade SKYW pilots to support ALPA you should post a link showing the official government documents governing this situation. That would be helpful.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Sounds like a perfect solution to me. And the SkyWest guys and gals won't mind as long as your DOH is changed to the date SKYW bought you so your former parent company could stay in business.

Dave,

You've been on here a long time and are a reasonable rational type. Are you really of the opinion that a staple would be a fair solution??? Hopefully, I missed the sarcastic inflection.

 

[Socalplt]

The only way I'd accept DOH would be if they gave me the 4.8 million!

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Dave,

You've been on here a long time and are a reasonable rational type. Are you really of the opinion that a staple would be a fair solution??? Hopefully, I missed the sarcastic inflection.

To me a staple is just as reasonable a solution as DOH. So yes there is some sarcasm there. I figure if an ASA guys pushes for DOH we should be pushing just as hard for a staple since neither is an equitable solution.

An equitable merger protocol would take these factors into account and preserve the all important career expectations.

1. Average ASA pilot is more senior than average SKYW pilot
2. SKYW pilots historically upgrade much faster than ASA pilots, in some cases less than 6 months and generally within 2 or 3 years

3. ASA was rescued from near certain bankruptcy
4. Prior to acquisition ASA pilots had no expectation of UAX flying
5. Prior to acquisition ASA pilots had no expectation of west coast bases
6. Prior to acquisition ASA pilots had no expectation of potential codeshare flying for partner other than DAL. SKYW actively bids for flying with other airlines according to SEC filed documents.

So an equitable merger protocol would not harm SKYW pilots the way a pure DOH merger would. An equitable merger protocol would force ASA pilots to make some sort of sacrifice in exchange for the new opportunties offered. In light of the fact that ASA would be bankrupt had they not been purchased by SKYW how can any reasonable person suggest that SKYW pilots be harmed in the aftermath of a merger?

Bottom line? The only fair way to merge the lists would be using some sort of ratio and fences.

 

[Tomct]

Dave, you just like to hear yourself TALK. You have got to be smoking some SERIOUS CRACK!! Go back to JA's house and have some more Kool-Aid! Jack Ass!

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Dave, you just like to hear yourself TALK. You have got to be smoking some SERIOUS CRACK!! Go back to JA's house and have some more Kool-Aid! Jack Ass!

I guess I could expect a more intelligent repsonse from my 4.5 year old Australian Shepherd. Just another case of some idiot not being able to handle the truth. Those bullet points I posted are hard to argue with. So I can't be too surprised that you just picked up your toys and went off to a corner to pout. Grow up kid.

 

[CFIT]

Tomclit,
There is now way DOH is going to happen, and there is no benefit of a merger any way except for ASA. I don't understand why you are so angry about this, you guys have the deck stacked in your favor, you are getting the planes that you have no rate for and Delta/SkyWest Inc. need them in ATL. It seems you can use this to your advantage, and get a pretty good contract. Or you could just sit there with your panties in a wad and cry at every body around.

 

["GO AROUND"]

Dave, we had the SLC base before SKW bought us. I for one could care less about anything west coast. Just a bunch of fruits and nuts that live out there.

I don't want a merger, leave everything the way it is.

Sorry for our ASA people in SLC but, lifes a bitch, this industry sucks and it's getting worse by the day!

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Dave, we had the SLC base before SKW bought us. I for one could care less about anything west coast. Just a bunch of fruits and nuts that live out there.

I don't want a merger, leave everything the way it is.

Sorry for our ASA people in SLC but, lifes a bitch, this industry sucks and it's getting worse by the day!

SKYW started flying codeshare for Western about 26 years ago. What you don't hear on this board is SKYW folks complaining about the loss of flying and resultant loss of income as SLC lineholders found themselves on reserve as a result of SLC flying being given to ASA.

Best regards and enjoy ATL,

another west coast fruit or nut

 

[scarlet]

I am sorry for caring but I want us all (as one company to survive and not spend stupid money) Stop trying to put skyw vs asa pilots...that is what mgt. wants. We are in this together like it or not--here we are--we can either fight or get along--I chose the later....SKYW pilots should call on their mgt. to stop spending crazy money on two of everthing (sch. payroll. HR, Dispatch, presidents, vps.) And for SKYW profits did jump over 123% from yty---and you guys want to hate us all of the sudden--??

 

[propsarebest]

Staple Staple Staple!


Who Bought Who?

 

[Tomct]

propsarebest]Staple Staple Staple!


Who Bought Who?

Flame Bait!

 

[Tomct]

CFIT, what you don't understand is that those airplanes they "SAY" are coming to ASA in ATL, could change at a moments notice. Just because they say they are headed our way, don't mean chit!!

They could fly skywst through ATL and have them fly those 705's, due to their 50-99 seat pay rate!

 

[homerjdispatch]

Staple Staple Staple!


Who Bought Who?

Amen to that!

 

[Andy Neill]

... And for SKYW profits did jump over 123% from yty...

Could you remind me for which time period SKYW profits jumped 123% from yty? Profit increases since ASA acquisition have been less than 100% increase and reflect the added profits ASA brings to the table proportional to the revenue and expenses ASA brings. Overall, profit margins have decreased from 6.45% to 4.66%.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Could you remind me for which time period SKYW profits jumped 123% from yty? Profit increases since ASA acquisition have been less than 100% increase and reflect the added profits ASA brings to the table proportional to the revenue and expenses ASA brings. Overall, profit margins have decreased from 6.45% to 4.66%.

Just another reason that regional airlines need to require some education beyond a GED. Or perhaps during indoc someone could explain the difference between revenue and profits to these guys. I'm pretty sure he's referring to the jump in revenue which is largely due to acquisition of ASA.

 

[scarlet]

they have decreased??? really--need to read your web board and go to yahoo aviation news and look up skywest---