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mike1

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I'm brand new here and want advice on the preflight.


For instance,

Pax door ground strap (under top step) either chaffed or cut.




**This is in no way connected to the fact that negotiations are not moving along, nor the fact that our crew bags are now needlessly denied entry into a warm, dry, and safe place.
 
Wow, are you serious? What, is it stump a check airman day? I've been flying the thing for a while now and never knew that was a preflight concern. For me I just look for things that will keep me from doing the CP carpet dance. Like if I were to miss them and fly six legs before the next guy did notice it, Wing strikes, bird strikes and missing engine cowls are biggies. ...Hey skipper outside's good, nothing leaking, missing or hanging, lets go!!
 
The most important item I check is to make sure my overnight bag is still onboard.
 
Don't touch anything blue on the right rear.

And as a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out!
 
skydork said:
Don't touch anything blue on the right rear.

And as a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out!

Scratch that.......you gotta taste the blue slushy residue to make sure the mix hasn't gone bad.
 
mike1 said:
I'm brand new here and want advice on the preflight.


For instance,

Pax door ground strap (under top step) either chaffed or cut.




**This is in no way connected to the fact that negotiations are not moving along, nor the fact that our crew bags are now needlessly denied entry into a warm, dry, and safe place.

Any discrepancy you find, let the captain know and then he/she will make the decision on what to do.

I've found plenty of bonding/grounding straps broken, usually on the gear doors, but in 3 years have found the main door one broken once and the nut missing and the strap "undone" once. We definitely had it replaced/repaired (beginning of trip, in base so no biggie)...last thing I want to do is have a lightning strike and have the hinge on the main cabin door fused shut, I know unlikely...but I prefer that since it was designed to be there, that it IS there! Ha!

Just let the captain know and you will have covered your bases and in short order, you will learn what is normal (brushes on gear bays worn somewhat, wheel bearing grease sprayed on the belly after a tire change etc) and what is not.

Good Luck and don't let all the drivel on these boards get you down!
 
mike1 said:
**This is in no way connected to the fact that negotiations are not moving along, nor the fact that our crew bags are now needlessly denied entry into a warm, dry, and safe place.

I fly the 700, but I think it applies on the 200 as well.

-Paint missing from wing root fairings.

-Paint missing from vertical stab, where leading edge of horizontal stab meets it.

-Reostat on reading light doesn't work at low settings.

-Visor mechanism broken.

Hope this helps.
 
skydork said:
Don't touch anything blue on the right rear.

And as a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out!

I don't care who ya are thats some funny sh!t...:beer:
 
skydork said:
And as a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out!

I just ask if all the big pieces are still there...
 
Pre Flight tip?

He's called the F/O:eek: . I ask him "is it complete?" If so, here's the load sheet, spin the wheel, let's get going. Our pay starts at push back. Hurry up. LMAO:D

note: He is a generic term as not to mean a specific gender... just to save time typing.. but I could have typed he/she by now... oh well....
 
Mike:

Great thread. Too bad some of the replies here mistook your idea as being that of a super-geeky newbie F/O who wants to restore each plane to factory-new before every flight!

Let's see:

1) Obviously, 2 navlights at each corner need to be functioning for a normal dispatch. I heard that someone once dispatched with a burnt out bulb. Good thing the FAA wasn't watching. Write up each one as soon as it's noted.

2) I don't like to see any fluid of any kind dripping from anywhere. How often is there a single black drop on the bottom of the engine cowl? Could be gearbox oil.....better write that up ASAP. I don't know how long it's been there.

3) Now that winter is upon us, it's very difficult to tell whether a pink streak on the tail is deice or hydraulic fluid. Better have a pro take a look at it.

4) At taxi out at an outstation, an EICAS message comes up. My last cell phone bill was over my minutes, by-the-way. The proper thing to do is to taxi back to the gate, enter the terminal, and call maintenance from a landline.

Too many unsafe things going on out there.....let's clean up our act a bit and make the Company proud!
 
Oil Change

...and, unless they provide you with a Jiffy Lube uniform, don't get in the aft equipment bay and add oil to the engines.

Geez. They pay mechanics for that stuff! It's dirty, noisy, and dangerous back there!

What would OSHA say if we told them the company wanted you to climb back into a confined space with a jet-engine running six inches above your head?

MX will catch it during the daily check. Screw the oil.
 
This happened to me a while back.
On those cold snowy mornings up north, when there is a foot of snow on the ground. Remember to actually walk around the aircraft and make your foot prints in the snow. Cause when I come out 15 minutes after you when the aircraft is all warm and ask if you did the walk around? You can see where this is going. Laugh.

But seriously,
All those lights in the ground service panel, test all those.

Sealant aound pylons, horiz stab and wing roots.

Sealant on the wing leading edges around the heated surfaces. Mtc did a leading edge replacement and I found all this dry sealant that had oozed out from the edges when they put it back on and didn't clean it up. Mtc tried to tell me that it was ok. Told them to remove it anyway cause we know ho well this wing does with any kind of contaminents on it.

Static wicks, which are in the CDL and which are not.

Cracks in the vent panel on the underside of the engine cowl.

Etc...Etc....
 
When you stick your head in the aft equipment bay, you should expect the captain to do the apu fire test. This will cause you to jump and hit your head on the nearest sharp, greasy metal object.

Of course you have your hat right ?
 
That grounding strap breaks all the time, I've bought brand new airplanes and found it frayed. It can't be MEL'd and the feds know right where to look for it.
 
The main passenger door sill is a problem area as well. For some reason the door gets shut with the pins extended. It does impact damage to the sill and has to be repaired with some sort of epoxy mix.

Take a long hard look at the epoxy repairs. If they are starting to crumble and come apart, the airplane shouldn't be dispatched.
 
There are also some grounding straps for the flight/ground spoilers. You have to manually deploy them and then do the walk around. I would not suggest trying to open them manually. They are always broken and they can't be MEL'd either. These are good to find in a nice, warm region of the country on the first couple of days of your trip! :)
 

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