The 1108 leadership is at it again.

[1folinepilot]

For those of you that have missed the latest move from the 11108 leadership here you go. Looks like they want to do what ever they want to do whenever they want.

The leadership is attempting to sneak in a bylaw change that essentially gives the leadership free reign to do whatever they like

Proposal one is to allow the leadership to conduct official meetings without the entire leadership present. (One would want the entire leadership present while meetings are conducted so everybody is on the same page and has input )

Proposal two is to allow the MEC to fill vacancies without an election ( This is ridiculous as it gives the MEC power to simply put whoever they want in charge without any vote or input from the membership )

Proposal three is to allow the Secretary to set policy to One Sky Management on withholding dues and service fees as well as collecting a reinitiation fee they forgot to administer. (This proposal will give the 1108 the power to simply send a bill to Onesky Management demanding your dues/fees and it will be automatically deducted from your pay. This will include any back dues the 1108 feels you owe and it does not set a limit to the amount of the reinitiating fee or any service fees. You will receive no bill for these charges, just the deducted amount from your pay. This proposal will allow the 1108 the power to forcibly collect all back dues from any of the flex transfers the 1108 is actively seeking to terminate as well as any non Mig who chose not to participate prior to contract ratification. )

These three proposals speak for themselves to the character of the 1108 leadership and what they think of the Onesky pilots they are claiming to "represent" at Flexjet and Flight Options.

 

[slowtation capt]

Dummy, it says to not have all executive board present. Meaning in the same damn room. Meaning they want the ability to have meetings and do things over the phone.

Stop trying to find the bs in the pile that's not there from the Union and start looking at your pos management team and how they lie, how they try to screw everyone, etc. that's were you need to look.

What a....

 

[doh]

Proposal one refines the definition of "present" to allow members to be present by phoning in. We all live in different places. This will save dues money on travel. Nothing to see. I'm still looking for the actual language of the second proposal. I can't comment until I find it and read it, but it was my understanding this was only for interim positions. Elections would then take place for these positions. Again, I need to read the actual language before committing to that. Proposal three can't happen fast enough. The secretary wouldn't "dictate" anything. The secretary would simply be empowered to collect the representation fees that members are LEGALLY OBLIGATED to pay. Since I, and most other MIGS, want dues auto deducted anyway, this will only enhance life for MIGS.

 

[doh]

I almost forgot to include these are PROPOSED changes. We, the membership will vote whether to change the by laws or not. So your panties are prematurely in a wad. I assure you I will be voting to go after the scumbags who aren't paying their dues!

 

[1folinepilot]

I almost forgot to include these are PROPOSED changes. We, the membership will vote whether to change the by laws or not. So your panties are prematurely in a wad. I assure you I will be voting to go after the scumbags who aren't paying their dues!

Yes they are PROPOSED changes that should not be voted into effect.

Proposal 1 will allow the leadership to conduct meetings and business without all of the members present either in person or telephonically

Proposal 2 will allow interim positions to be filled without a vote of approval from the membership and you know as well as I that all it takes is one idiot to make a bad decision to screw everything up for us so the membership should get a say in who is representing them

proposal 3 will allow the Union to forcibly collect back dues from all of the Onesky pilots that chose to not participate prior to the contract ratification as well as allow the union to forcibly collect assessments and fees that they charge the members. this is not right as the members should have the decision to pay any fees prior to contract ratification as they were originally promised there would be no fees

 

[Club ORD FO]

When we were promised no fees before contract ratification? I believe you are mistaken. It was three months of no fees. Then you have to pay up.

 

[Imissmypilot]

Everyone needs to just ignore syPHILis... he is only here because no one but the same small and shrinking group pay him any attention on Yammer and he is too smart to post on the VUH knowing his disinfo campaign will be quickly torn apart.

He is wrong as always. Enough said.

 

[doh]

Everyone needs to just ignore syPHILis... he is only here because no one but the same small and shrinking group pay him any attention on Yammer and he is too smart to post on the VUH knowing his disinfo campaign will be quickly torn apart.

He is wrong as always. Enough said.

Agree 100%. He is always wrong.

 

[V1 Rotate]

I say let him continue to post. Highly entertaining!

 

[doh]

Could one of you who still posts on yammer please tell SPT that we get to vote on IBT by law changes. His post seems to indicate he doesn't realize the membership has to democratically approve changes. Just like our "individual employment agreement" promises us. Oh snap, SPT hasn't been allowed to vote on any of management's changes. But that's ok, because you can't vote when your on your knees with your mouth full anyway.

 

[1folinepilot]

When we were promised no fees before contract ratification? I believe you are mistaken. It was three months of no fees. Then you have to pay up.

Remember a long time ago before you had your head down in Slinghoffa's lap we were lied to and promised no dues till the first contract was ratified? Then the net Jets guys voted that we had to pay from day one as a ploy to get more money from us.

Now amendment three will give the union the unilateral power to collect back dues from everybody that chose to not pay prior to contract ratification or sign their "Dues arrangements"

This is just another bull******************** move of the 1108 leadership

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

So,once again, you want a free ride while reaping the benefits. You got a raise thru no effort of your own. You are just greedy, so that must be the bond between you and Kenn.

 

[dime line]

Remember a long time ago before you had your head down in Slinghoffa's lap we were lied to and promised no dues till the first contract was ratified? Then the net Jets guys voted that we had to pay from day one as a ploy to get more money from us.

Now amendment three will give the union the unilateral power to collect back dues from everybody that chose to not pay prior to contract ratification or sign their "Dues arrangements"

This is just another bull******************** move of the 1108 leadership

Pay up succa!

You call it a BS move of the 1108, I call it BS that your able to ride on coat-tails of others

 

[doh]

All of us (who want to) vote on these proposed changes. If you are not a MIGS, you have chosen not to have a vote, so don't cry. Everyone has always been obligated to pay their fees, either dues or admin fees. Management has always had a contractual, legal obligation to collect those monies. The fact they haven't collected them properly doesn't lessen the obligation. Change three simply gives the secretary the authority to correct that error. The other two changes are simply common sense to save money and ensure continuity in the event an elected office is vacated mid term. So enough of your drama.

 

[1folinepilot]

All of us (who want to) vote on these proposed changes. If you are not a MIGS, you have chosen not to have a vote, so don't cry. Everyone has always been obligated to pay their fees, either dues or admin fees. Management has always had a contractual, legal obligation to collect those monies. The fact they haven't collected them properly doesn't lessen the obligation. Change three simply gives the secretary the authority to correct that error. The other two changes are simply common sense to save money and ensure continuity in the event an elected office is vacated mid term. So enough of your drama.

How about having the secretary get off his incompetent ass and get his billing records straight? Word is that he is overcharging members and refusing to provide payment records and now you want us to give that clown the power to forcibly collect dues. NO THANK YOU

 

[doh]

How about having the secretary get off his incompetent ass and get his billing records straight? Word is that he is overcharging members and refusing to provide payment records and now you want us to give that clown the power to forcibly collect dues. NO THANK YOU

Provide proof of that. Oh wait, you can't provide anything except BS and false accusations.

 

[V1 Rotate]

How about having the secretary get off his incompetent ass and get his billing records straight? Word is that he is overcharging members and refusing to provide payment records and now you want us to give that clown the power to forcibly collect dues. NO THANK YOU

"Word is..."

In other words, you have no proof.

 

[shanes123]

What a sad place this has become to work. If these guys worked for a airline or real company with professionals they would be getting a old fashioned A whooping !!!

 

[1folinepilot]

What a sad place this has become to work. If these guys worked for a airline or real company with professionals they would be getting a old fashioned A whooping !!!

Such a pleasure to to do the extra work you childish clowns refuse to do as you hide behind the contract disrupting operations. While you are assigned at home standby the rest of us are forced to pull double duty to make up for the chaos you guys create. Way to go and work with your brothers as you stick it to the man.

 

[doh]

Caught in a lie, the asshat attempts to change the subject. I've never made a fatigue call, so fail. Now back to our regularly scheduled demand for proof, or an apology for being a liar.