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el raton

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Could be an opportunity for First officers. Such a loaded subject, any thoughts?





I'll get this out of the way....The IBT will save you!.....there.
 
Are you guys doing dedicated crewing like Flop's did back in the day? Or are you talking the Global and the talk of some Challengers doing the same as the Globals?
 
Dedicated crews, but, unlike the Globals, the Challengers will still be run inside the Flexjet program.
 
It does sound like dedicated groups of crews, since if their plane breaks and there is another plane of the same type on the ramp they would take that plane, so not dedicated plane.

Really sounds like a way to circumvent seniority. FLOPS pilots can come here and get a captain slot in the 350 right away. Current Flex FO's can become challenger captains ahead of more senior pilots (think 45 captains). Either stick with the seniority system or get rid of it entirely. This half and half $hit is for the birds.
 
Welcome to Ricci world guys. It has been said many times at Flops seniority means nothing. Hence the SFO program. Change is coming and probably not for the better.
 
So if I am not mistaken, it is basically the same as the way that things are run now. If you are a LR45 guy than you fly 45's, etc.

This plan of theirs however is only going to apply to which aircraft? Sounds like Ricci is trying to pull something.
 
Really sounds like a way to circumvent seniority. FLOPS pilots can come here and get a captain slot in the 350 right away. Current Flex FO's can become challenger captains ahead of more senior pilots (think 45 captains). Either stick with the seniority system or get rid of it entirely. This half and half $hit is for the birds.[/QUOTE]

Dude eventually the Union will be gone and the 2 pilot groups will be merged either by percentage or DOH as the new company becomes one.
 
slowtation capt said:
So if I am not mistaken, it is basically the same as the way that things are run now. If you are a LR45 guy than you fly 45's, etc.

This plan of theirs however is only going to apply to which aircraft? Sounds like Ricci is trying to pull something.
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It only applies to the 350's, I believe. Maybe the 604/5's? It wil not apply to the 45 or 75's.
 
GlorifiedCabbie said:
One of the FO pilots was offered SIC in the 45 for now. When the 350s come on line, they will be offered a PIC slot.
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Written with such conviction about something he knows nothing about.

If what you are saying is true then we wouldn't be hiring them into the 45. We get 350s this year, why would we train them in the 45 just to train them in the 350?

If KR is all about the $$ he would just have us wait and put them straight into the 350.
 
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Why settle for a CL350 when the Gulfstreams are just around the corner...

If the dedicated crew brain spasm takes hold and the seniority system for fleet aircraft is undone, it will light a fuse heading toward a very big boom.
 
luckydog said:
Why settle for a CL350 when the Gulfstreams are just around the corner...

If the dedicated crew brain spasm takes hold and the seniority system for fleet aircraft is undone, it will light a fuse heading toward a very big boom.
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Bingo. Starting to see how flops got a union yet???? Ricci can't wake up in the morning and change policy cause his wife told him it would be a good idea and no bj if he don't.
 
KR himself attended the signing with Gulfstream and provided the news release quote. No pics or quotes from Flex leadership.


ahh, isn't KR the head of Flex leadership....
 
Seems the majority of Flex guys think there management is running the place. I think a lot of them are getting slapped with a bit of reality. KR couldn't keep things there status quoe till the union got voted out. The guy just can't help himself
 

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