HA - Latest System Bid

[igneousy2]

Just curious what the latest CA DOH were on each equipment type on the latest system bid that just came out. Is there a new junior Captain?

Thanks

 

[nethan]

330 - May 2001
767 - May 2008 (I think the bottom guy(s) got displaced on this one maybe?)
717 - Sep 2009

 

[HAL]

Yes, several of the bottom captains on the 717 are first-time captains for HA. On the newest award the bottom 717CA was hired in 9/09, 767CA in 5/08, and 330CA in 7/01. There's only 27 people between the bottom 767CA and bottom 330CA because there wasn't any hiring between '01 and '08.

There are 17 new-hire positions on this bid, all of them 717 FOs. App window opens 9/12.

HAL

 

[Shifty]

1st class Sept. 25!

 

[FLYN4LVE]

you don't want to know. he/she was probably your FO in your previous life.

 

[jonjuan]

330 - May 2001
767 - May 2008 (I think the bottom guy(s) got displaced on this one maybe?)
717 - Sep 2009

The generals going to love slinging gear for a 2009 HA hire after the merger.

 

[BentOver]

That merger rumor has been dead for over a year... Keep up... We are on merger rumor #5 by now....

Delta
AA
Alaskan
JB
And now VA ( apparently we had some sort of lei day party with them)

 

[Microclimates]

I heard Garuda

 

[FlyinGuy]

That merger rumor has been dead for over a year... Keep up... We are on merger rumor #5 by now....

Delta
AA
Alaskan
JB
And now VA ( apparently we had some sort of lei day party with them)

Oh common dude!!!! Why you wanna leave out the LUV machine on your list?

 

[Jim]

Oh common dude!!!! Why you wanna leave out the LUV machine on your list?

Because other than coming from some SWA trolls here, it's never been a rumor at Hawaiian. Nothing but Flightinfo make believe.

 

[xjhawk]

So i am assuming the 717 is an impossible mainland commute? I am almost laughing at myself just thinking about it. I would love to move back to Hawaii, but my kids are in the midwest and they are my main priority.

 

[HAL]

So i am assuming the 717 is an impossible mainland commute?

It's not impossible, but it isn't pretty. And if you're trying to go all the way to the midwest, it would be worse. We do have a few commuters. It just takes patience, a realistic point of view, and a high tolerance for jumpseats. The good news is that after two years you'd get your choice of aircraft since the 321NEOs will be showing up about then. Our planning people still say that almost everyone currently on the property will have a shot at the left seat by 2020, so these new-hires will be senior FOs by then.

HAL

 

[Junkflyer]

Some people do make pretty long commutes even interisland pilots. Realistically, with all the big boys hiring, you are better off at DAL, AAL, or UAL at least for a shorter commute in the future if nothing else. HAL is a good place to work, but commuting will never get easier.

 

[BentOver]

Because other than coming from some SWA trolls here, it's never been a rumor at Hawaiian. Nothing but Flightinfo make believe.

What Jim said

Atleast the other companies make some sense.... SWA going to China......:laugh:

 

[BentOver]

Our planning people still say that almost everyone currently on the property will have a shot at the left seat by 2020, so these new-hires will be senior FOs by then.

HAL

I've been running all sorts of scenarios/ numbers in my head....

I'm under the belief that there will always be that handful of FO's who won't give up their 3-4 day Australia's/Japan/Korea as a senior FO, to go do NEO West Coast for what may end up being a few thousand more $$ per year....

After seeing how many bypassed a chance at 717 Captain I think just about anyone hired in 2012 should atleast have an outside chance at junior NEO/717 Captain by the time the NEO's are nearly all delivered.....

Or worse case , be a senior widebody FO with a nice schedule....

Life could be worse!!!