HAL converts A350-8 orders to A330neo...

[ROSWELL41]

My understanding is that airbus will lighten the ZFW, up the MTOW, and get the 14% improved burn from the Trent engines. Thus gaining an additional 400nm range, but significantly improve on its full payload range (as the 332 has the range but without any payload, TLS-HNL). John Leahy said in the press release for the neo that it would be capable of HNL-LHR. We shall see..

What's the obsession with HNL-LHR? Surely if this was some gold mine of a route BA or Delta would already be flying it.

 

[Jim]

Also in 2019 instead of 2017 like the 350 was supposed to be here, or like a 787 could have been here.

 

[blade230]

Also in 2019 instead of 2017 like the 350 was supposed to be here, or like a 787 could have been here.

So delayed long haul growth plans for HAL then, since they are not taking the aircraft when earliest available. I believe the 330neo-900 will deliver in 2017, and the 800 in early 2018.

 

[Jim]

So delayed long haul growth plans for HAL then, since they are not taking the aircraft when earliest available. I believe the 330neo-900 will deliver in 2017, and the 800 in early 2018.

But we will still be growing big with all the 321neos on order.

 

[...Lost]

What's the obsession with HNL-LHR? Surely if this was some gold mine of a route BA or Delta would already be flying it.

Hawaiian's CEO is British and has previously stated his desire to potentially serve Europe. Current demand would probably suffice for 2-3 times weekly service, but potential yields are questionable. Hawaiian has been very successful in stimulating demand in new markets and making money while exapanding, so clearly they are doing something right.

 

[johnsonrod]

Hawaiian's CEO is British and has previously stated his desire to potentially serve Europe. Current demand would probably suffice for 2-3 times weekly service, but potential yields are questionable. Hawaiian has been very successful in stimulating demand in new markets and making money while exapanding, so clearly they are doing something right.

Don't you remember Higgins from Magnum PI? He was British and he lived on the huge Robin Masters Estate on Oahu. That is proof that the Limeys would flock to Hawaii if direct service existed. I say go for it!!!!

 

[...Lost]

Don't you remember Higgins from Magnum PI? He was British and he lived on the huge Robin Masters Estate on Oahu. That is proof that the Limeys would flock to Hawaii if direct service existed. I say go for it!!!!

Precisely!

 

[xjhawk]

Did someone say growing? Lets hope for hiring soon!

 

[Microclimates]

Personally I hope we stay away from Europe (having been born and raised there, I am familiar with the distance)...
Those Euros who feel like they want to vacay in HI already do, but virtually nobody would go this distance JUST for a tropical getaway. If that's what you are after, there are plenty of other cheaper and easier options from Europe. Those who come here think "USA trip", which equates to multiple stops: NYC, LA or SFO, and HI.... in this idea of a vacation, non-stop service to HI is pretty much useless. but what do I know...

As far as our faith in market planning departments: they are definitely doing something right (though-not to burst the bubble- every US carrier is posting profits that are in line with ours, as a percentage of revenue, if not better) but they have also made some pretty hefty oopsies too: FUK, TPE... and how is AKL shaking out (I am asking- don't know)...

 

[waveflyer]

What is the most popular tropical spot for euros?

 

[fr8doggie]

What is the most popular tropical spot for euros?

Saw a BA 767 in NAU yesterday. I'm guessing it was headed for LHR.

Is SWA serving NAU now or is it still AirTran?

 

[waveflyer]

Bahamas Aruba Jamaica just began
The rest on scheduled dates over the next few months as the transition finalizes

 

[Microclimates]

I know Italians love to go to Cuba, and the caribbean in general. Southern Africa (mauritius, madagascar etc) are 'easy' because virtually no time change. Maldives are also very popular for divers...

 

[nethan]

If the new 330s can reach FRA, there is a huge market from that part of Europe on to NZ and Australia. A two hop flight through Hawaii (with a few days or weeks on the ground) sounds a lot better than going through Dubai or LA.

 

[fr8doggie]

Bahamas Aruba Jamaica just began
The rest on scheduled dates over the next few months as the transition finalizes

Great! Hope you guys get some layovers.