More Mesa MGMT BS

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Mesa MGMT will be paying 50 seat base rate pay on the E-175. All vacations and DH pay will be paid at 50 seat rate on a E-175

MESA MGMT will not allow a CRJ pilot to bid over to the E-175. Seniority means nothing then at Mesa

-So while RJET will pay nearly $50 an hour at end of contract for FO's. Mesa mgmt will be paying 27.50 per hour.

All new hires will NOT EVER UPGRAGE despite what MGMT will say. The numbers do not add up.

Mesa MGMT has stalled on contact talks.

 

[flysafe]

It should be noted that Mesa pilots can expect to be Junior assigned flying
on your scheduled day/days off. If you inform the company that you are not
available on your day off because of a commitment such as a doctors appointment
family event-child's birthday Etc; the company will penalize you with a UFW
(unavailable for work). A UFW goes on attendance record and can potentially lead to termination.

 

[sniper]

Mesa MGMT will be paying 50 seat base rate pay on the E-175. All vacations and DH pay will be paid at 50 seat rate on a E-175

MESA MGMT will not allow a CRJ pilot to bid over to the E-175. Seniority means nothing then at Mesa

-So while RJET will pay nearly $50 an hour at end of contract for FO's. Mesa mgmt will be paying 27.50 per hour.

All new hires will NOT EVER UPGRAGE despite what MGMT will say. The numbers do not add up.

Mesa MGMT has stalled on contact talks.

I am not surprised , dumb and dumber runs that airline

 

[BOX OFFICE]

Mesa sucks.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

It should be noted that Mesa pilots can expect to be Junior assigned flying
on your scheduled day/days off. If you inform the company that you are not
available on your day off because of a commitment such as a doctors appointment
family event-child's birthday Etc; the company will penalize you with a UFW
(unavailable for work). A UFW goes on attendance record and can potentially lead to termination.

Mesa Mgmt continues to treat its pilots poorly. The slow to zero contracts talks are the indicator.

New hires will never upgrade and be subjected to the poor work rules and even poorer pay.

NEW HIRES STAY AWAY !

 

[hou757]

Those looking at going to Mesa PLEASE do your research. Don't bring this industry down. Plenty of better places to go.

 

[NoJoy]

The only other places to go are Compass and SkyWest for most pilots. The other regionals don't seem to be much better.
Anyway, where is Mesa getting their 175 pilots from? Can the CRJ FOs bid over to either 175 CA or FO positions? Or is Mesa hiring off the street pilots to fly these planes? Hmmm

 

[MooneyPilot]

What did you wash out or something dude?

 

[NoJoy]

Just curious on the 175 saga

 

[brokedash]

Has Mesa ALPA requested or considering NMB mediation?

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Has Mesa ALPA requested or considering NMB mediation?

Not yet-

 

[jonjuan]

I am not surprised , dumb and dumber runs that airline

Actually they seem pretty smart. Dumb would be those pilots who keep working under those conditions.

 

[mesaserf]

Mesa classes are packed because they are telling the new hires that they will be in the left seat in two years.

Hook, line and sinker....

 

[20sx]

If they aren't a captain, then they'll be a senior FO. Latest upgrade went fairly junior, so it's very possible to upgrade in 2 years with pilots holding out for quality of life. However, if they are holding out for the e-jet, then that will definitely skew how junior the upgrades will continue.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Mesa has stated total pilot group will settle around 1100 pilots once all planes arrive.

Easy math - top 50% in the left seat.

Mesa has zero attrition in the capt ranks. Most guys have 15 years +. New hires will be lucky to see the left seat in 5 years

 

[20sx]

It's not easy math. It will never be 50/50. There are always FO's that choose quality of life over the upgrade. Add in longer vacation time for senior CA's, FO's waiting for a better jet with new domicile's, and all that together will give a different ratio. The latest upgrade class had an FO 65% down the list that will be upgrading.
In terms of attrition, a fair amount of FO's here are downgraded captains from the bad times. They have PIC turbine time and are marketable for leaving.
I just don't see where it will take 5 years to upgrade at Mesa.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

There is no such thing as a quick upgrade- Mesa doesn't even have one new 175 on line yet-

Let's not forget, these are UALs airframes.

Don't count your upgrade time until your in the left seat rolling down the runway.

 

[SAABaroowski]

Mesa has stated total pilot group will settle around 1100 pilots once all planes arrive.

Easy math - top 50% in the left seat.

Mesa has zero attrition in the capt ranks. Most guys have 15 years +. New hires will be lucky to see the left seat in 5 years

What kind of person stays at MESA for 15+ years? Serious question, why?

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

What kind of person stays at MESA for 15+ years? Serious question, why?

100k+ a year. Live in base. Sleep in your own bed most of the month.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

What kind of person stays at MESA for 15+ years? Serious question, why?

Possibly 9/11; age 65; and that whole recession thing too.