Goodbye usapa!!!!!!

[pave driver]

The SLI will be whatever APA says it is. Hey, just for fun, try and get them to put DOH as the sole SLI methodology in their constitution.

Not going to happen.

 

[Guppiedriver]

That's like, your opinion, man.

Seriously, even if I'm wrong about the election, it doesn't change anything materially so who cares. But I'm curious what makes you so sure of yourself. Do you have something to cite?

In what way is the timeline going to be different? Do you have something to add beyond 8 word declarative statements?

Go to the NMB website and educate yourself.

 

[Turtle21]

The SLI will not be DOH or the NIC. APA and USAPA will work the list together using MB law.

No. No. No. Not if we donate enough to Marty!!! Donate now! We can save the Nic and get our 330!!

 

[IBNAV8R]

Just because USAPA is fighting it does not mean binding arbitration must be ignored. It's already decided - end of story. The only thing that remains is how to merge the Nic list into the other.

My prediction is that USAPA will be out-USAPA'd by APA.

 

[General Lee]

Just because USAPA is fighting it does not mean binding arbitration must be ignored. It's already decided - end of story. The only thing that remains is how to merge the Nic list into the other.

My prediction is that USAPA will be out-USAPA'd by APA.

And I suspect there will be arbitration involved in the final SLI between the APA and USAPA. Do you think any of the arbitrators know Nicelau himself? Could that weigh in on their eventual award? You never know.... But, always look for the other hand when shaking hands with an Easties. The other hand has crossed fingers behind his back....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[71driver]

And there's your problem 71driver.

Did you really think that you'd keep your 23-33% seniority coming across to a much larger carrier? Please. Your expectations were inflated if that's the case. A career at SW didn't equal a career at AirTran. I'm not saying AirTran wasn't a good gig for many, it just all changed when your CEO hit the cash register.

No I didn't say that and our merger committee wasn't expecting that either. What I did tell the merger committee was if I was going to loss more than 10% or 750 Pilot places on the seniority list then I thought arbitration was where it should go. As to your reference to a much larger carrier..I am not as enamored about Southwest as apparently many of it's employees are..not because of what transpired...sure that stings...but objectively the next 10-15 yrs will not be like the last 10-15.
Y'all experienced some linear type growth...well at least til 2008ish/2009. riding on the coat tails or operating in the shadows of the legacies. You were a niche carrier with very low fares. now not so much. post 911 ALL the legacies have "reset" themselves to a more competitve footing. In adddition, they are all about twice the size they were. Southwest, has shrunk to #4. Your fares are really not low cost any more yet your product is. y'all are seriously lacking in inovating yourselves...you have been driving into the future for the past 10-20yrs using your rearview mirror of past success. Y'all don't want to be like Kodak or Blackberry

So yes you are a larger carrier, but I am just not sure what the future will be like at Southwest

A career at SW didn't equal a career at AirTran.

even pre 911 knowing where your career will ultimately go is shady at best...post 911 it's a crap shoot...yes even for Southwest


I'm not saying AirTran wasn't a good gig for many, it just all changed when your CEO hit the cash register.

Actually going back to Joe and yes....as you say even bob, both these guys were old school legacy born and bred type of guys. They stuffed there pockets the best they could.To bad really, I said back in 2006 if we were able to remove the top 3 teirs of the corporate structure at Airtran and insert the top 3 teirs of Southwest's corporate structure, we could've kick some aviation butt

Yes your guys are good, I am still amazed at the revenue they generate from the product offered

 

[General Lee]

71driver,

There is NO way any arbitration award would have bumped ALL AT 737 Capts to the right seat, especially since AT was bringing the same planes over, with more options. Even the TWA guys kept 767 and MD80 Capt slots in STL with their AA merger, which was pretty much a staple. You guys got hosed.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[DCAA320]

71driver,

There is NO way any arbitration award would have bumped ALL AT 737 Capts to the right seat,
Bye Bye---General Lee

Hey dumbfu(k, my bud was at AT when it was VJ, pretty senior, and he got bumped to the right seat. He surely didn't want to go to swa.

If not all, then most.

 

[LearLove]

AA will staple the East and the West below TWA and Reno because MB does not apply....

So your saying we'll have the eagle guys below us? At least we got that going for us.

 

[General Lee]

Hey dumbfu(k, my bud was at AT when it was VJ, pretty senior, and he got bumped to the right seat. He surely didn't want to go to swa.

If not all, then most.

Uhhhhh, what? I thought the AT guys got screwed, and I bet he thinks so too... Right?


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[ultrarunner]

In my next life, I want to wake up, back in time as a USAPA attorney...

Better than the government nipple....

 

[General Lee]

Hey dumbfu(k, my bud was at AT when it was VJ, pretty senior, and he got bumped to the right seat. He surely didn't want to go to swa.

If not all, then most.

And another thing, how does your friend, the one who got bumped thanks to being at the smaller airline, think of your lame group doing the same to the Westies? Is he still your friend? He shouldn't be, you are a total loser. How ironic you think he got hosed, and you can't see your group did the same. What a bunch of tools.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

Hey Jenny, just saw ya on the Regional board as Mercyful now you're here as Jenny like a minute or two later. Busted! You putz!

 

[pave driver]

The two West members of USAPA Merger Committee have resigned via email in a letter dated 30 Jan 14. APA will only accept a 2 merger commitee and not 3 for the seniority integration protocol agreement. It appears DOH and the NIC will not be used.

 

[Dan Roman]

The two West members of USAPA Merger Committee have resigned via email in a letter dated 30 Jan 14. APA will only accept a 2 merger commitee and not 3 for the seniority integration protocol agreement. It appears DOH and the NIC will not be used.

Which of course opens the door for more lawsuits. I'm guessing it will be a long time before you have a SLI.