Eastern Airlines making a comeback

[airplane wizard]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/eastern-air-lines-group-inc-161500875.html

Okay, show of hands, who wants to fly for these guys?



Don't be shy....


They fly jets........

 

[DieselDragRacer]

How's the QOL?

 

[Mamma]

If they get a good astronaut to run it then I'm in!!! I wonder if they will have unions?

 

[dustrpilot]

Done it once, don't think I'll try again.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Haven't they heard that Doug Parker is consolidating the industry? Oh well, there goes the raise. We can't have costs above those of new entrants, right?

The good times lasted for about 50 days this time.

Their second Airbus will carry the name, "The Spirit of Skybus"

 

[airplane wizard]

How's the QOL?

Actually really good until you try to cash your paycheck. You don't have to work at all. Their planes will be in the desert before their first flight.

 

[BUDDHA145]

How's the QOL?

F that! I'll fly that new shinny jet for half of what you make!! JK... But you'll see!!

 

[johnsonrod]

I have great memories of flying on Eastern as a kid. Loved the A300-B4s and 757 "whisper jets."

Key questions will be:

1. How will you attract pilots when 3 majors, Spirit, Jet Blue and SWA are hiring? Beyond a potential quick upgrade for early joiners, why would someone with experience consider a start-up like Eastern vs a slot at a legacy with so many upcoming retirements?

2. Will pilots need to pay for their A320 type? That would be a deal breaker IMO.

3. How will a new Eastern secure slots and gates at any of the major airports? Just look at how Virgin America has been constrained...

 

[Bringupthebird]

Key questions will be:

1. How will you attract pilots when 3 majors, Spirit, Jet Blue and SWA are hiring? Beyond a potential quick upgrade for early joiners, why would someone with experience consider a start-up like Eastern vs a slot at a legacy with so many upcoming retirements?

2. Will pilots need to pay for their A320 type? That would be a deal breaker IMO.

3. How will a new Eastern secure slots and gates at any of the major airports? Just look at how Virgin America has been constrained...

1. Relaxed Visa requirements for ICAO-qualified pilots from India, etc. to come during "pilot shortage"
2. Sure, eventually everyone will after this "shortage" passes
3. Eric Holder, aka Robin Hood take from the weak and give to the strong

 

[dollacrackho]

You kidding they probably have a thousand applications already. People don't even know what they're paying or work rules but they see that airbus with the sweet eastern logo and they're in. Just want to get in on that ground floor and get rich . Just like the dopes that went to skybus. Hey here's 50000 shares in our worthless piece of ********************e company. oooh oohh ooh im in! Plus all the guys with records and dwi's and sodomy of barnyard animals will be applying.

 

[Ty Webb]

Plus all the guys with records and dwi's and sodomy of barnyard animals will be applying.

I'm not sure, but I think you just managed to insult damn near everyone on FI in one post! Nicely done!

:beer:

 

[Ty Webb]

Haven't they heard that Doug Parker is consolidating the industry? Oh well, there goes the raise. We can't have costs above those of new entrants, right?

The good times lasted for about 50 days this time.

Their second Airbus will carry the name, "The Spirit of Skybus"

That pretty much sums it up.

 

[dollacrackho]

I'm not sure, but I think you just managed to insult damn near everyone on FI in one post! Nicely done!

:beer:

Maybe not all of flight info but probably the general.

 

[johnsonrod]

Call me sentimental, but I do like the look of the old Eastern paint scheme on the Mini-Bus:

http://easternairlines.aero/design-of-aircrafts.html

Many good memories flying on Eastern as a youth in the 1980s...

 

[SpauldingSmails]

I wish them luck, every airline was new once upon a time. That said, it's a super duper long shot they make it past a couple years.

 

[WSurf]

I wish them luck, every airline was new once upon a time. That said, it's a super duper long shot they make it past a couple years.

Same thing everyone said about JetBlue.... I remember jumpseating on ACA and the FO had gotten hired. The Captain was telling him "You are an idiot to leave here for that JetBlue job when your going to be upgrading in 5 months on the RJ." Yep that didn't work out so well for the ACA Capt. dude. JetBlue guy is probably in the top 10%.

You just never know......

 

[Rekks Inbound]

The key to their success will be how well they are financed, as well as have they identified their 'niche'. If they have a market unfilled and good financing, then they will make it. Otherwise.......

Peace.

Rekks

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Same thing everyone said about JetBlue.... I remember jumpseating on ACA and the FO had gotten hired. The Captain was telling him "You are an idiot to leave here for that JetBlue job when your going to be upgrading in 5 months on the RJ." Yep that didn't work out so well for the ACA Capt. dude. JetBlue guy is probably in the top 10%.

You just never know......

Some people have also met powerball winners.

I'm not putting anyone down, but the odds are long. Vanguard, Eastwind, Air
South, Hooters Air, Midway I and II, Braniff II, PanAm II, National II, Pride Air... Remember Kiwi?

Lot's of attempts, very few success stories. On the plus side, their Chairman appears to be no slouch.

 

[mesaserf]

You kidding they probably have a thousand applications already. People don't even know what they're paying or work rules but they see that airbus with the sweet eastern logo and they're in. Just want to get in on that ground floor and get rich . Just like the dopes that went to skybus. Hey here's 50000 shares in our worthless piece of ********************e company. oooh oohh ooh im in! Plus all the guys with records and dwi's and sodomy of barnyard animals will be applying.

(In my best sling-blade voice)

Umm.. check, check, uhh.. check. Well mudder pack up dem young'ns in the Winee bay go. We's a head'n fur My-Ham-EE!

 

[WSurf]

Some people have also met powerball winners.

I'm not putting anyone down, but the odds are long. Vanguard, Eastwind, Air
South, Hooters Air, Midway I and II, Braniff II, PanAm II, National II, Pride Air... Remember Kiwi?

Lot's of attempts, very few success stories. On the plus side, their Chairman appears to be no slouch.

True

Probably the best was one of my dad's military flying buddies that went back to his hometown to fly Falcon 20's. Nobody could understand why he didn't go to Eastern or PanAm.

Well the Falcon thing was FedEx....

 

[johnsonrod]

The current Eastern plan says flights to Latin America from MIA.

Well, JB, Spirit and AA are saturating all Caribbean and Latin/South American routes from the MIA/FLL area. Spirit offers very low-cost/no-frills flights.

So, what will Eastern offer the market that Spirit, JB or AA can't and at what price? Will Eastern compete as a LCC as well? The Eastern brand name will only take you so far... And how difficult is it to get route authority into these Latin American countries? What about gate access at MIA? Is there room to grow at MIA?

It's nice to be nostalgic, but at some point economics supersede nostalgia... Bottom line: is there room for another LCC carrier out of the MIA/FLL area?

 

[Ty Webb]

It's nice to be nostalgic, but at some point economics supersede nostalgia... Bottom line: is there room for another LCC carrier out of the MIA/FLL area?

I haven't seen any actual data, but rumor has it that a lot of flying has left Miami for FLL since MIA drastically raised their fees. I know AirTran did.

 

[LearLove]

You kidding they probably have a thousand applications already.

...and sodomy of barnyard animals will be applying.

So which FAR says we're not allowed to molest the farm animals? Damn FAA has become too overreaching.

 

[Saluki Dawg]

It makes you wonder if JetBlue might have something to do with this new iteration of Eastern. Apparently the new CEO has said that they already have training and maintenance support from a major US Airline. What if JetBlue is helping the new Eastern get up and running to only Merge with them in the next 12 months and assume their identity? That's just some of the speculation that's been going around. Interesting theory anyway. Good luck to them either way.

 

[ATLplt]

It makes you wonder if JetBlue might have something to do with this new iteration of Eastern. Apparently the new CEO has said that they already have training and maintenance support from a major US Airline. What if JetBlue is helping the new Eastern get up and running to only Merge with them in the next 12 months and assume their identity? That's just some of the speculation that's been going around. Interesting theory anyway. Good luck to them either way.

The Eastern name to most people now reminds them of labor strife, lost bags, bad service, and that a$$hole who's future grave shall be eternally pissed upon. JetBlue has quite a loyal following and a fairly good name for themselves in pop culture. Why would they want anything to do with a dinosaur name that hasn't existed in 20 years?

Good rumor/mental masturbation fodder though.