Pilot Shortage affecting the Majors

[fareview]

Chqfler,

It's precisely the professionalism & expertise of pilots that keep this industry safe.

Asiana (SFO) & UPS (BHM), to name two, had nothing to do with worst case scenario.

fv

 

[waveflyer]

Honestly, how often in ones career can you realistically expect the worst case scenario to blow up in your face? Most pilots go an entire career with nothing more serious than a blown tire or flap malfunction. There are the occasional Sullys out there that face the split second life or death scenario, but out of the thousands of flights you've flown, how many were truly struggles between life and death? As far as the airlines are concerned, there are certain "acceptable losses" before its worth their money to keep a warm body or two on the flight deck.

One of the dumbest posts I've ever read here

Must be flame...
(Yawn)

 

[Green]

yeah no kidding. Might as well pull out those expensive TCAS and EGPWES systems. I mean how often does the average guy have to actually fly a terrain escape maneuver? Most of the public don't even realize we have them anyways...

 

[pilotyip]

Growing pilot shortage

Now back to our regularly scheduled programing. Remember the growing pilot shortage. Couple things I note one of our pilots who had been turned down by an airline last year is now being contracted again to see if he wants to interview. Another one our pilots who applied over 18 months ago, never hears a thing and suddenly gets call would you like to interview. Something is going on our there. I think it is that this pile of astronaut pilot candidates has disappeared, now they are calling pilots who two years ago didn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting an interview at a real airline.

 

[chqflyer]

Chqfler,

It's precisely the professionalism & expertise of pilots that keep this industry safe.

Asiana (SFO) & UPS (BHM), to name two, had nothing to do with worst case scenario.

fv

I'm not denigrating the expertise and professionalism of pilots. I'm just saying that most flights don't require the use of our super human skills. I'm also just pointing out that airlines are run by bean counters. The loss of a few airplanes is a perfectly acceptable price to pay for them to lower crew costs. The only reason we have any sort of safety gear or systems is because companies are forced to by the FAA. Safety costs money. More money spent on safety, pilots, etc means less money for executive bonuses. I've been around this industry long enough to realize how truly despicable the interchangeable suits at the top really are.

 

[waveflyer]

That may be chq, but an absolutely normal flight gets very dangerous in the wrong two pairs of hands

I don't thump my chest, but not everyone can do this job-

It's up to us to state our case and make sure people know how much safer they are with good pilots
Vs the Fred smith theory that pilots make airplanes more dangerous

 

[fareview]

WF

Well said.

Back to the shortage. At EK they told us "thousands of apps on file" nine months ago. Then last month we get a letter from head of Pilot Selection: "Guys if you know of any guys you feel comfortable recc'ing let us know" and now this month they are starting road shows again.

Hmmm

fv

 

[General Lee]

WF

Well said.

Back to the shortage. At EK they told us "thousands of apps on file" nine months ago. Then last month we get a letter from head of Pilot Selection: "Guys if you know of any guys you feel comfortable recc'ing let us know" and now this month they are starting road shows again.

Hmmm

fv

Aren't you guys advertising in Flight International for FO spots on the A380? I think it said road shows in LHR and other European cities or airports. Where is Ike? I think he wants to go...


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[pilotyip]

WF

Well said.

Back to the shortage. At EK they told us "thousands of apps on file" nine months ago. Then last month we get a letter from head of Pilot Selection: "Guys if you know of any guys you feel comfortable recc'ing let us know" and now this month they are starting road shows again.

Hmmm

fv

Because everyone had the same "thousands of apps on file", airlines said the same thing in 1997, by 1999 the college degree was not longer a show stopper at the majors.

 

[jmreii]

Unfortunately, they are not controlling who they hire other than choosing the lowest bidder for outsourced flying. They are hiring thousands with no true control over the end product. Instead of being in charge of the product that is produced, the outsourced labor is shaping and forming the public perception every day on thousands of flights. The flying public purchases a ticket from a mainline source with a mainline flight number that is flown in an aircraft painted in mainline colors. All experiences positive or negative are attributed to the mainline carrier. Whether you like it or not, that outsourced labor was in fact hired.

Name one industry/company/governmental agency with complete control of the quality of the labor/talent from a outsourced product/service. I didn't think so!