2nd big industry announcement? The TEB ramp is getting crowded

[johnsonrod]

In case you missed it on the "Hold On Tight" thread:

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...-06/vistajet-moves-us-jet-aviation-and-wheels.

Interesting tie-in between VistaJet (big Euro charter operator using Globals), Jet Aviation and Wheels Up for new US-based flying. Sounds like good job opportunities for qualified pilots wanting to fly new Globals worldwide. Curious as to what the pay will be considering possible TEB base (not cheap) and Vistajet's poor pay in Europe... Netjets, VistaJet and Flexjet (likely) will be adding new Globals in the coming years.

Thoughts?

 

[CALRepublic]

In case you missed it on the "Hold On Tight" thread:

Netjets, VistaJet and Flexjet (likely) will be adding new Globals in the coming years.

Thoughts?

yes One.... if FlexJet gets Globals, the FLOPS guys are NOT gonna be happy

 

[luckydog]

yes One.... if FlexJet gets Globals, the FLOPS guys are NOT gonna be happy

I didn't think FLOPS guys were happy now.

 

[AeroBoy]

Hear me now and believe me later: URL jets at Flexjet will not preempt them at Flight Options. Flexjet will be getting new URL jets (and possibly even ones not made by Bombardier), while Flight Options will be getting "previously enjoyed" ones. Things on this front will become clearer after an announcement at NBAA next month. Sorry--that's all I can say for now.

 

[Pattern-Master]

On another note, i will be calling in sick during superbowl week this year. Can you imagine the chaos that will ensue @TEB, no thanks. That is all.

 

[4mr72drvr]

On another note, i will be calling in sick during superbowl week this year. Can you imagine the chaos that will ensue @TEB, no thanks. That is all.

Shall we start taking bets now on how long the delays @ TEB will be?

 

[SDCFI]

Shall we start taking bets now on how long the delays @ TEB will be?

Put me down for days, not hours!

Maybe the one saving grace is the lack of space, theres no infield parking like at SDF for the derby. And you cant park planes on the twys without blocking access to rwys and ramps. Once the lim parking spaces are taken it will be drop and pickup and go only. Im still planning on taking vacation that week.

 

[johnsonrod]

Hear me now and believe me later: URL jets at Flexjet will not preempt them at Flight Options. Flexjet will be getting new URL jets (and possibly even ones not made by Bombardier), while Flight Options will be getting "previously enjoyed" ones. Things on this front will become clearer after an announcement at NBAA next month. Sorry--that's all I can say for now.

AeroBoy,

I must say that you have successfully injected some "edge" to this board with your cryptic predictions and hints. Finally a reason to tune in more frequently... My prediction for the new non-Bombardier order for Flight Options: Embraer 500s to replace the Xs since Embraer is likely aching to do a deal for that new aircraft... Pure speculation.

I just hope that all of these big changes lead to more jobs or just preserves jobs. This VistaJet/Jet Aviation announcement is a good example - if 12 Globals are actually added that equates to something like 60+ new pilot jobs. Thank goodness the airlines will be hiring too over the next several years for anyone who gets displaced.

 

[brokeflyer]

better get a union in these places right away before management wrecks it before it even takes off.

 

[gret]

Put me down for days, not hours!

Maybe the one saving grace is the lack of space, theres no infield parking like at SDF for the derby. And you cant park planes on the twys without blocking access to rwys and ramps. Once the lim parking spaces are taken it will be drop and pickup and go only. Im still planning on taking vacation that week.

Not selecting your comment for any reason, it was at random...

TEB may not be that bad as so many a/c don't have to move for the owner to watch the Super Bowl. Yes it will be a mess, but all the NYC based a/c do not have to fly for the party.

 

[Pattern-Master]

Just for fun, let's throw a little ice and snow into the mix when everyone is trying to leave!

 

[gunfyter]

Mess?

Doesn't everyone bid vacation for the Super Bowl and World Series?

I know I do and only had to work one super bowl in 14 years.

 

[johnsonrod]

Updated Article About VistaJet-Jet Aviation Deal

Sounds like they intend to expand beyond the initial 12 Globals and the Wheels Up founder will be more involved in the selling aspect of the Global charter blocks.

See article below:


VistaJet launches US expansion with 12 jets, new partners
By: Stephen Trimble New York
06:11 6 Sep 2013




VistaJet has finally addressed the "missing link" in its global private jet charter company, launching an expansion into the US market with 12 Bombardier Global business jets that will be operated and managed by Jet Aviation and sold on a block-hour basis by start-up company Wheels Up.

The service scheduled to begin in March will establish VistaJet for the first time in the US market, following its worldwide service already reaching Europe, the Middle East, Asia and Africa.

"The missing link really was to come to the United States," says Thomas Flohr, VistaJet founder and chairman, at an event in New York today.

The US operation will leverage Jet Aviation's existing air operator certificate (AOC) and the sales expertise of Wheels Up founder Kenny Dichter. Before launching Wheels Up in August, Dichter invented the fractional jet card concept with Marquis Jet.

The initial goal for VistaJet in the US market is for Dichter's Wheels Up to sell 5,000 block hours on the 12 VistaJet-owned Bombardier Global aircraft operated by Jet Aviation to about 40 customers within the first year, Dichter says.

By the third year, VistaJet hopes to begin expanding its US fleet operated by Jet Aviation beyond the initial 12 aircraft, Flohr says. The long-term goal is have as many as 50 US-based jets serving US customers in five to 10 years, Dichter adds.

VistaJet will require each customer to buy a minimum of 100 block hours each year, although Dichter expects the average sale will be around 150 block hours.

The relationship with Jet Aviation, which owns 200 private aircraft including dozens of Bombardier jets, lends another advantage to the partnership. If VistaJet is unable to meet demand with only the 12 jets initially based in the USA, Jet Aviation can draw upon its own fleet to fill any gaps. "You have a built-in back-up with Jet [Aviation]," Dichter says.

At the moment, the VistaJet teaming arrangement with Jet Aviation and Wheels Up has no effect on VistaJet's partnership with Flexjet. Since 2010, Flexjet allows travelers on VistaJet's long-range Global jets to transfer onto its fleet of light and midisize cabin jets between destinations in the USA. That has not changed even after Bombardier agreed on 5 September to sell Flexjet to Directional Aviation Capital, a Cleveland-based private equity firm owned by Kenn Ricci.

The new partnership, however, finally establishes VistaJet in the US market, which it had previously ceded to competitors such as NetJets. Flohr had once told Flightglobal that Americans do not value VistaJet's luxury services. But he says he has since witnessed new trends emerging, with US corporations wanting more access to global destinations and less exposure to the risks of direct ownership of business jets.

Dichter promises that the new VistaJet team will spark a new wave of demand in the guaranteed charter market by block-hour within the USA by 2020.
"If there's 1,000 people in the game today," Dicther says, "there will be 2,000 in seven years."